[governance] democracy (was Re: Towards an Internet Social Forum)

Norbert Bollow nb at bollow.ch
Tue Feb 3 07:53:40 EST 2015


On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:17:36 +0100
Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> We obviously have very different views on democracy.  I believe in a
> model of participatory democracy the includes representative
> democratic actors and falls just short of direct democracy on every
> issue but includes lots of open to all comment periods and
> consultations. Since you do not consider that democracy, I have no
> idea what you might mean by democracy.

IMO, the characterization "a model.... that includes representative
democratic actors and falls just short of direct democracy on every
issue but includes lots of open to all comment periods and
consultations" is certainly consistent with democracy, but not in
itself sufficient to ensure that the model which is characterized
thusly is in fact democratic.

A central question is IMO: What happens when no consensus is reached?
Who has the power to decide what is to happen in that case?

Greetings,
Norbert

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