[governance] DMP} Proposed letter on role of Brazil liaisons

[Norbert Bollow]

Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> wrote:

> An announcement from Brazil about the meeting is expected any time
> now.  Please do not send any letter until the Brazilian government's
> plans are clear.

[with IGC coordinator hat on]

ACK.

I'm pretty sure that even if we go forward as quickly as reasonably
possible with resolving that opposition "on principle" against the
appointment of four civil society liaisons through an informal
in-person process in Bali, that resolution process will in any case
not be complete before we have news from the Brazilian government.

Greetings,
Norbert


> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Norbert Bollow wrote:
> 
> > [with IGC coordinator hat on]
> > 
> > Is there any way for this opposition "on principle" to be reconciled
> > with the intention behind to proposed letter on the role of the
> > liaisons?
> > 
> > If not, full consensus will clearly not be possible on this matter,
> > and it may be appropriate to use the rough consensus process.
> > 
> > There was very strong support for what this letter has been
> > proposed to express among the IGC members who participated in
> > person in the relevant discussions in Bali.
> > 
> > The rough consensus process which is explicitly allowed by the IGC
> > Charter could be implemented for example by means of using online
> > polling software to determine whether there is an overwhelming
> > majority of IGC members in support of such a letter. According to
> > the Charter, such a rough consensus poll has to run at least 48
> > hours, then the coordinators would jointly decide to interpret the
> > result as "rough consensus" or not. (That is of course a decision
> > that can be appealed if desired.)
> > 
> > But we should certainly discuss the matter first.
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > Norbert
> > 
> > 
> > Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at hserus.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> I will oppose this on principle as drawing any sort of artificial
> >> distinction between the technical community and civil society is
> >> counterproductive in the long run.
> >> 
> >> --srs (iPad)
> >> 
> >>> On 14-Nov-2013, at 15:29, Norbert Bollow <nb at bollow.ch> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> On 14/11/13 12:00, parminder wrote:
> >>>>>> Once again, as suggested by Matthew, I do believe a formal
> >>>>>> letter nominating and explaining our role as liasons, and not
> >>>>>> representatives, for International Civil Society for
> >>>>>> information regarding the Summit will be good to legitimate
> >>>>>> and help our job here.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> A formal letter naming our liaisons and making it clear that
> >>>>> global civil society would want to use this mechanism to
> >>>>> coordinate its role in the proposed Brazil meeting and not go
> >>>>> through 1net or any other tehcnical community led interface is
> >>>>> of the highest priority at this stage. Dont want to get into
> >>>>> I-told-you-so mode, but I have been insisting that we did that
> >>>>> first and in clear terms since our earliest meetings in Bali. If
> >>>>> we have got such a communication through in clear terms, maybe
> >>>>> our four reps would have been there at the above meeting. At
> >>>>> least if they werent invited we could have protested...
> >>>> 
> >>>> Draft letter is here: http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/brazil-reps
> >>> 
> >>> Looks good to me.
> >>> 
> >>> Greetings,
> >>> Norbert
> > 
> > 
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