[governance] IGF Cancelled

Carlos A. Afonso ca at cafonso.ca
Fri Jul 26 12:22:00 EDT 2013


If I understand Canabarro's question, govs will be, if not necessary,
unavoidable :) To begin with, they are among the largest users of
Internet resources (something many of us forget in our dialogues), so
they can at a minimum claim the right to participate as major users of
the Net. :)

frt rgds

--c.a.

On 07/26/2013 12:56 PM, Diego Rafael Canabarro wrote:
> Why would that be desirable at all?
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Deirdre Williams <
> williams.deirdre at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> However - weighing in with Jeremy  and Ginger - I don't see that having
>> the meeting online would necessarily preclude the attendance of governments?
>> Deirdre
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 July 2013 11:37, David Allen <David_Allen_AB63 at post.harvard.edu>wrote:
>>
>>> The desire to 'go independent' is always understandable.
>>>
>>> However.
>>>
>>> A, if not the, IGF challenge has been to get serious engagement by
>>> governments, and most all governments.  Since governments hold the power,
>>> such engagement is fundamental - without it, IGF is effectively window
>>> dressing on the policy process.
>>>
>>> To 'go independent' virtually assures no prospect for serious,
>>> more-or-less across the board, government engagement.  So no 'multi' in the
>>> multi-stakeholder.  At least not that - essential - multi.
>>>
>>> Said with - nonetheless - full appreciation for all that Jeremy and
>>> Ginger bring to the work.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Ginger Paque wrote:
>>>
>>> Jeremy said:
>>> Alternatively it could be time for the IGF to be reimagined in purely
>>> online form.  At least that would ensure that more attention is given to
>>> the remote participation experience.
>>>
>>> YES, Jeremy: it's time! I suggested this in today's MAG meeting, but
>>> there was not time to address the possibility. I do hope it is given
>>> serious consideration.
>>>
>>> gp
>>>
>>> Ginger (Virginia) Paque
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>>> On 25 July 2013 22:44, Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy at ciroap.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  On 26/07/13 11:37, genekimmelman at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I imagine other governments that really want the event to proceed will
>>>> now weigh in to help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If not, then it will really confirm the contempt with which the IGF is
>>>> held as a process.  There are Silicon Valley parties that have cost more
>>>> than the IGF's $1.05M shortfall.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively it could be time for the IGF to be reimagined in purely
>>>> online form.  At least that would ensure that more attention is given to
>>>> the remote participation experience.
>>>>
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