[governance] NTIA on certain geographic names...

Roland Perry roland at internetpolicyagency.com
Wed Jul 10 03:13:58 EDT 2013


In message <01c201ce7cf0$e5af76c0$b10e6440$@gmail.com>, at 03:38:38 on 
Wed, 10 Jul 2013, michael gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com> writes
>And a significant municipality in British Columbia.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta,_British_Columbia

But that one doesn't have an entry in the relevant ISO list (because 
it's not a province). The only city-sized entities with protection built 
into the Guidebook are Capital cities (hence my use of Paris as an 
example).

What I'm still unsure of is whether Paris, Texas needs the permission of 
the French, the USA, or no-one, in the event it wanted to have its own 
gTLD.

R.

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>10:18:42 on Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Mawaki Chango <kichango at gmail.com> writes
>>It makes sense to me that national sovereignty does not provide for any
>>exclusive rights over the use of names of places or words of a
>>language, even if that language is only spoken in one country on earth.
>>However, the people living in those places (eg, cities) should have a
>>say in one form or the other, to the extent that the name at hand
>>unambiguously or presumptively designates one such place or that the
>>TLD string is meant to do so. In other terms, this should be the
>>business of the local community, not the central government
>
>Geographic names are a minefield. Paris, Texas; anyone?
>
>But the ICANN process decided (as it has before with countries) to use ISO
>lists. Although when I asked at an ICANN meeting, staff could not produce a
>copy of the list so that we could understand what it was we were potentially
>agreeing to.
>
>However, ISO (being to some extent based on places you might want to mail a
>letter to) does not recognise 'non-sovereign regions' like Scandinavia or
>Patagonia.
>
>It does, however, recognise regions within countries, like Delta (in
>Nigeria) which creates an instant conflict with a well known airline.
>--
>Roland Perry
>
>

-- 
Roland Perry

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