[governance] Completely Ignored [was East Africa IGF - day 2, discussion of ITRs]

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Tue Jul 24 00:30:07 EDT 2012


Peng Hwa,

You have mentioned in your email how I had raised a number of issues when you had first organised the so-called APrIGF in Hongkong in 2010. Indeed, after a few exchanges IT for Change agreed to be present at the meeting on the condition that we would basically say the same things at the meeting about its legitimacy etc as we had been arguing. You kindly consented and we did attend the meeting and made our point.

However, what surprises me is your conclusion that we were somehow mollified by our conversations with you at Hongkong and then at Vilnius. There is no question of such mollification  without the issues we raised being addressed, and as is evident, they never were.

What is even more surprising are your comments, quote below from your email of the last week, about the second so called APrIGF in Singapore.


        "When I organized the meeting in Singapore, you did not raise any objection." and, again later in the email  " In Singapore, you did not raise any objections. And I thought that's where the issue stood."  (Peng Hwa)

It has obviously entirely skipped your memory, but when you wrote to me inviting me for the Singapore meeting, I wrote a detailed email to you which not only raised the same issues that I had raised earlier, but also suggested, in considerable detail, what in our opinion is the right way to go about organising the APrIGF (so much so for all this talk from various parties that I should be constructive etc, which I must say is a more than a bit patronising). I reproduce below my email to you before Singapore. I would not make your response public which is up to you to decide whatever to do about. I however must say that I had even at that time asked for your permission to make my email public but was persuaded not to, pending further f2f discussions etc which never happened.
parminder

*My email in response to an invitation to attend the Singapore so called APrIGF is below.*

On 5/3/11 12:36 AM, "Parminder Singh"<parminder at ITforChange.net>  wrote:


    Dear Peng Hwa,

      It is always nice to hear from you, and hope you are doing well!

      Thank you for inviting me to chair a session during the proposed
    meeting. I do quite appreciate the utmost sincerely and serious
    application that you bring to your efforts to keep a dialogue on
    Internet Governance alive in the Asia Pacific region. However, for
    the reason mentioned below in some detail , I am constrained to
    decline your kind invitation.

      As mentioned in our conversations before the similar meeting last
    year, I do not think it legitimate to call any meeting as a regional
    IGF without a minimum standard of broad participation and
    'ownership', especially of public interest actors. Last year I was
    told that it was the first time and the meeting has been planned in
    haste, and that things should improve for subsequent meetings.
    However, in this invite for the 2011 meeting I see no indication
    about who all are on the organizing committee, how was the agenda
    and speaker selection arrived at, etc.

      Apart from the basic legitimacy question, holding of such meetings
    under the banner of national/regional IGFs has a negative reverse
    impact on the global IGF to make it look like it too was just
    another annual conference on IG, which I do not think it is (though
    some people do) . I think that the global IGF is, or at least is
    supposed to be, an innovative experiment in deliberative and
    participatory democracy for global governance of the Internet. At
    least some basic features of the global IGF suggests the possibility
    that the global IGF can, if we have the political will for it,
    hopefully evolve to be something close to this ideal. These features
    are; strong mooring in a public institution - or a set of them, a
    good amount of public funding (though not at all of the kind, and
    extent, that can be considered satisfactory), a multistakeholder
    group deciding the agenda of the meeting and the speakers through an
    intensively consultative process, and such.

      While some of us are struggling to ensure that the annual IGF has
    an even greater public and democratic character, organization of
    completely private meetings opaquely planned and executed, with
    unknown sponsors and key drivers, like the proposed meeting being
    called the Asia Pacific Regional IGF, is to us a retrograde step. It
    is for this reason that we cannot associate with it, and in fact
    oppose it to be held under its proposed name.

      I do understand how difficult it is to be  innovative and
    entrepreneurial in such matters and actually pull an event like this
    together; and in relation how facile it may be considered to
    criticize such almost valiant efforts. I must therefore engage
    constructively and suggest what could alternatively have been done
    and would, in my opinion, have been the better option. Though I
    cannot suggest funding options right away, it is possible that the
    Asia Pacific UN regional commission (ESCAP) could have shown some
    interest in this event. Was it even approached at all? Funding from
    governments of some countries could also been explored apart from
    sourcing 'monopoly funds' (akin to Internet tax) that are collected
    by registrars and such registries that use the commons resources of
    geo-political expressions like ctlds. In any case, wider
    participation of public interest actors is always possible to seek.
    There was this Asia Pacific Civil Society Caucus at WSIS, which is
    now defunct but one can recollect some key names of those -
    individuals and organizations - who participated actively. Then
    there are Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus members from Asia
    Pacific quite active in the Internet Governance  Caucus. There are
    also MAG members from this region. I have no indication that these
    actors had any role at all in shaping an activity which is being
    called the Asia Pacific Regional IGF.

      I must once again mention that I hold you and your sincere efforts
    towards a continued dialogue on Internet governance in our region in
    great esteem. And this statement is made most sincerely because I
    have known you and your work closely. The proposed meeting should
    simply have been named something like 'an regional dialogue on IG'
    or some such thing rather than a regional IGF. In this regard we
    have the example of EURODIG. I do hope that such a change can still
    be made so that it leaves no room for confusion regarding the nature
    of the proposed meeting.

      We should do nothing to contribute to promoting privatized realms
    of governance for such an important social, economic, political and
    cultural phenomenon as the Internet. We fear that through privatized
    governance models for the Internet, what is really being done is to
    challenge the very essentials of democratic thought and ideals for
    all aspects of our social life.

      I look forward to hear your response to the issues that I have
    raised, and discuss them at as much length as may be required.
    However, meanwhile, I may have to take the contents of this letter
    to the public domain, since it really is not a response to you
    individually but a much larger engagement with issues concerning
    democracy and public interest, specifically about the nature of
    institutions that can serve these ideals.

      With respect, and the very best regards

      Parminder

      On Thursday 28 April 2011 06:38 AM, Ang Peng Hwa (Prof) wrote:

          APrIGF
        Dear Parminder,

          Greetings from Singapore!

          I append below the draft programme for the coming APrIGF in
        Singapore. This will be jus before the ICANN meeting.


         1. Can you make it?
         2. Can you participate in a panel or chair one? We have the
            plenaries as well as the workshops.
         3.


          Regards,
          Peng Hwa








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