[governance] FW: TP: city government exercising policy on Google Applications / consumer rights / Consumer Protection Act / trial period

parminder parminder at itforchange.net
Wed Jul 13 10:16:49 EDT 2011


Daniel

Taxes are collected on services, which has even less 'body' or location 
that an internet application. Who collects from whom, how etc get 
appropriately decided with regard to the nature of what is being taxed.

As for your question on purchasing an application in Oslo and use it in 
Frankfurt and Varna, you may even buy a razor in Oslo and use it in 
Frankfurt and Varna. Tax regimes do not bother themselves with such 
trivialities for the obvious reason, which is not reason to not have 
them in the first place.

Remember taxes are also the basis of governmental transfers to those 
whom the dominant system structurally disadvantages, so a position 
against taxes can, often, be seen as class interest based.

Parminder

On Wednesday 13 July 2011 06:23 PM, Daniel Kalchev wrote:
> Interesting discussion indeed.
>
> What is an application? What you pay for, when you buy software? 
> Aren't you paying for the right to use the application? How are taxes 
> collected on rights to use? Who is taxed -- the party that gives the 
> right, or the party that receives the right?
>
> Does the application have physical location? Does it reside on my iPad 
> flash storage and if it does, can I take it from there and put it in 
> another physical place? Or does it reside "somewhere" in the Internet 
> cloud?
>
> What if the application is web based, "resides" and "runs" somewhere, 
> but I "use" it here?
>
> Could you also explain to me who collects taxes when:
>
> Apple in California sold me the application.
> I purchased it while in Oslo (Norvay), then used it while staying at 
> the Frankfurt (Germany) airport and continued to use it back home in 
> Varna (Bulgaria).
>
> Internet does not have 'place' and it also does not do anything with 
> 'physical' objects. Both these things are the foundation of the 
> current taxation system.
>
> Daniel
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