[governance] Every Email In UK To Be Monitored

Thu Oct 16 22:07:25 EDT 2008

Linda and all,

  Make no mistake the UK LEA's will be storing whatever data
they intercept that they feel is relevant to whatever it may be
relevant to as well as whatever other data that has a particular
political use at some point later or even sooner.

  I am also sure that Scottland Yard will share this data that will
no doubt be stored selectively, with the USG as well.

linda misek-falkoff wrote:

> Dear Jeffrey, so goes it for the Messenger!
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> The news is not always delightful, but blessed are those who share it
> and ignite discussion.  Thanks much for your attention to this.  And
> transporting the messages here.
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> Many of us being in communications fields directly or indirectly, in
> fact perhaps All might be able to caucus productively on models of
> electronic info systems governance - express, or derivable.
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>  In the present setting there seems (?) an underlying, at-least
> dualistic model of context versus (contrasting with) content.
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> When one stores "setting" info, that is where and when and who
> transactions take place (contextual matters of space and time, actors
> id's etc). The reports seem to be alleging that this capture is not so
> intrusive (on a Rights-based or other dimension), only contextual,
> some might call it meta data - or use somehow related terms - what
> think U?
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> Zo ... what I have read is that it is purported: that message content
> won't be stored.  If so, one still looks to context as content
> (usually).
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> But these are musings.  It could be quite interesting to compare
> musings or "other" on models for what is happening or planned for the
> currently discussed email capture and storage, from which
> interpretation and even value judgments might flow. Surprise!
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> Warm regards, Linda.
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> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Jeffrey A.
> Williams <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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>      All,
>
>      Sorry to read of this.  What's next in the UK, toilet cams
>      perhaps?  Or perhaps manditory implanted RFID tracking
>      chips?
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>      God save the queen!  ( Poor woman )  >:(
>
>      P.S. But I am sure Stalins soul is getting a reprieve by
>      St. Peter...
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>      See:
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>      http
>      //www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/UKgovernment/Parliament/DG_078075
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>      The Communications Data Bill (2008) will lead to the
>      creation of
>      a single, centralized database containing records of all
>      e-mails sent,
>      websites visited and mobile phones used by UK citizens. In
>      a carnivore-on-steroids programme, as all vestiges of
>      communication
>      privacy are stripped away, The BBC reports that Home
>      Secretary Jacqui
>      Smith says
>      http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7671046.stm this
>      is a "necessity".
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>      Regards,
>
>      Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k
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>      United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
>      1947]
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Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
My Phone: 214-244-4827

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