[governance] Drop ALAC altogether??

Alejandro Pisanty apisan at servidor.unam.mx
Fri Nov 30 21:25:13 EST 2007


Vittorio,

this all is a feature coming from design.

As Jackie has already well indicated, the NCUC (originally non-commercial 
domain-name holders, which we later expanded to represent non-commercial 
interest in generic domain names) is focused on generic domain names, 
whereas the ALAC covers all that ICANN does and may attract the general 
user, i.e. not only generic names but also ccTLD names, IP addresses, etc.

WARNING. This is not a defense because there is no attack. It is an 
explanation. It is too bad that for many people an explanation or the 
dismissal of an untruth reads like a defense.

Alejandro Pisanty


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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007, Vittorio Bertola wrote:

> Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 10:12:12 +0800
> From: Vittorio Bertola <vb at bertola.eu>
> Reply-To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, Vittorio Bertola <vb at bertola.eu>
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com>
> Subject: Re: [governance] Drop ALAC altogether??
> 
> Ian Peter ha scritto:
>> Sorry to raise yet another heresy,
>> 
>> But why have ALAC at all when we have Non Commercial Users Constituency and
>> a Business Users Constituency? Don’t they cover all users who would get
>> involved in ALAC?
>> 
>> I understand the historical reasons for ALAC, but if we are analyzing
>> structure (rather than power bases we wish to maintain) why have an ALAC 
>> and
>> a NCUC? 
>
> In addition to what Jacqueline already said, the viewpoint/interest of the 
> average Internet user and the viewpoint/interest of the academic and NGO 
> groups that make up the NCUC (and a good share of the ALSes as well) do not 
> always coincide. In issues such as Whois, for example, we had in the At Large 
> several people from consumer organizations and technical groups pushing for 
> positions that are completely opposite to those of the NCUC and of the civil 
> rights organizations, e.g. advocating full disclosure and authentication of 
> whoever is behind a website, including individuals.
>
> A different question might be why do academic and civil rights groups have to 
> be split, part in the NCUC and part in the ALAC (and some perhaps in both). 
> That might make more sense.
> -- 
> vb.                   Vittorio Bertola - vb [a] bertola.eu   <--------
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