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<div>Dear Sheetal and All Friends at IGC & BestBits,</div><div><br></div><div>Please find herewith Charter of IG Caucus.</div><div><br></div><div>We can discuss it further to provide support for the re-establishment of Website of IGC CS, if really required.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Imran Ahmed Shah</div><div><font size="2">[on behalf of IGF Pakistan]</font><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, 10 January 2019, 15:46:10 GMT+5, Michael J. Oghia <mike.oghia@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydp290ecd8cyiv7075299213"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Sheetal makes a great point. I also just searched for the charter, hoping to find a full-length version of it on a blog somewhere. No luck. Does anyone have a PDF or. .doc version somewhere?</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div class="ydp290ecd8cyiv7075299213gmail_signature" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Best,<br clear="none">-Michael</font><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp290ecd8cyiv7075299213gmail_quote"><div class="ydp290ecd8cyiv7075299213yqt3088173622" id="ydp290ecd8cyiv7075299213yqtfd79071"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:01 AM Sheetal Kumar <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:sheetal@gp-digital.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sheetal@gp-digital.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydp290ecd8cyiv7075299213gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear all, <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I would agree with those further who have noted that we should have a discussion informed by certain information about the history of both groups: why were they constituted, what are their respective mandates/constitutions/charters etc? As a very first step, this information should be clear and accessible.
We should be able to compare the mandates/guiding principles/charters.
I can't access the IGC Charter via the link I'm afraid, or at least I can't find it when I visit <a shape="rect" href="http://archive.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">archive.org</a>. Would there be another way to share it? @Ian Peter - you also mentioned an IGC constitution, was this different from the charter? There is a lot more publicly available information about Bestbits available (see <a shape="rect" href="https://bestbits.net/wiki/main/procedures/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://bestbits.net/wiki/main/procedures/</a>) than there is about IGC (indeed almost none, unless it is in the archive where I unfortunately haven't been able to find the information myself).<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>For those who were part of the first Steering Committee of Bestbits - could you share more information about how it was constituted and why? <br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Best</div><div>Sheetal. <br clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp290ecd8cyiv7075299213gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 16:36, Jeremy Malcolm <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:jeremy@malcolm.id.au" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">jeremy@malcolm.id.au</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydp290ecd8cyiv7075299213gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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<p>On 1/8/19 10:16 PM, <a shape="rect" class="ydp290ecd8cyiv7075299213gmail-m_-944359558381114423gmail-m_4351912182988257997moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a> wrote:<br clear="none">
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<div>Actually while this seemed to me the obvious way forward at
first - BB emerged out of IGC, so why not get back together
again - on reflection there are a few issues.</div>
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<div>Firstly I note that the IGC website is down so I cant check
things - but from memory IGC had a constitution which we adopted
early on which proved very difficult to change, and which may
not be altogether suitable for what is needed now. I think this
should be looked at before everyone is locked into something
that is unsuitable. Can someone get the website up and running?</div>
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<p>I can't volunteer for that because whenever I volunteer to run a
website for a limited time I end up doing so in perpetuity, and I
feel bad about stopping. However, I can donate a paid virtual
server for SOMEONE ELSE to administer on their own. This is the
one that Best Bits is using now. It's paid up for about 5 years.<br clear="none">
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<p>Also, as one of the original co-founders of Best Bits I do
support the merger, and your (Ian's) suggestion still seems to be
the best one on the table. There are previous Steering Committee
members of Best Bits who aren't as happy about it, but I don't
think that a good alternative has been put forward yet.</p>
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