<div><div dir="auto">Wow! I agree with Parminder! Ah!</div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 10:13 PM parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_5884133044364644117moz-cite-prefix">On 29/10/18 3:47 AM,
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<div>Very sad that this has happened, Carlos. Lurches to the right
seem commonplace these days. </div>
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<div>Brazil was a great leader as regards multistakeholder
internet governance initiatives, and I do hope that all is not
lost with this change. Certainly what has been achieved in the
past sets a great example and part of history which I hope is
not forgotten.</div>
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<div>Ian</div>
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<p>I dont want to make capital out of unfortunate times, but truth
is as important to speak out at such times, if we are not just to
make pro forma regrets but to look ahead with vision and purpose,
and thus any real hope....</p>
<p>Dear Ian, do you really think that a multistakeholder model which
culminated in trying to install a World Economic Forum based
global Internet Governance regime instead of a UN based one was
itself not a lurch to right? That is also history that must not be
forgotten, and released from its responsibilities.<br>
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<p>The current Trumpian phenomenon is precisely the product of a
trans-national elite seeking their common economic advantages
often using the cover of social liberalism without economic
egalitarianism -- where market without political governance was to
be the defender of rights! This is a direct result of promotion of
an one-sided talk of human rights -- only civil and political ones
and not social and economic ones, which have openly been flouted
even ridiculed on , yes, IG civil society lists.... Dot ask me for
real examples, bec I have followed this and I know many.... Ok,
take two, the very concept and not just the real implementation of
'public interest' has been ridiculed on the NCUC (of
ICANN's)website, to which many CS stalwarts of IG belong. A key
leader of CS community has said 'social justice' is a meaningless
concept, another that the term 'democracy carries baggage', and
when appeals (like at UNESCO's key Paris meeting on IG) were
circulated to simply ensure that social and economic rights get
mentioned along with civil and public rights in the conf document
there wasnt much sympathy on these lists.. And yes, also when all
progressive civil society is fighting for a binding treaty on
human rights abuses by corporations, key leaders write here why
any such thing is a bad idea .... .I can go on and on ...</p>
<p>And so lets not assume innocence about this creeping death of
progressive and democratic ideals that the global trans-national
elite has brought on us in blind pursuit of their global economic
interests (Zizek's 'Clinton not Trump is the problem' precisely
captures it). <br>
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<p>This is the dispossessed reacting against the global neoliberal
excesses in the only ways they could think of, or were made
available to them, however deleterious the results are finally
going to be for them. But lets not look away from what or who is
responsible here.....</p>
<p>When we seethe market, the embodiment of un-restrained
self-interest, as the institution that will govern us in all areas
(which is the definition of neoliberalism) including of rights,
welfare, etc, then one can very well expect a Trump and a
Bolsanaro to come along and say, well self-interest, fine, this is
what it politically is, everyone fending for oneself and one's
narrow interests, and avowedly and unabashedly so ... Trump and
Bolsorno are the other side of the same trans-national
neo-liberalism of which Internet governance space has been a key,
often pioneering arena. It is a local, political response of the
justifiably angry and dispossessed, even if a suicidal one... T
and B are simply neoliberalism's narrow profession of unbridled
self-interest without the spin and false sophisticated sheen that
is just there to reflect away deserved criticism -- it is the
proverbial chickens coming home to roost. <br>
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<p>With hope and solidarity</p></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>parminder <br>
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<div>From: "Carlos Afonso" <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></div>
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<div>Sent: 28/10/2018 1:29:02 AM</div>
<div>Subject: [bestbits] OFF-TOPIC - Brazil: Return to Terror</div>
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<div>Dear colleagues, this article may give you an idea of
what might happen</div>
<div>in Brazil with the presidential elections tomorrow.</div>
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<div>Sorry for this, but the situation may be terrifying for
anyone who</div>
<div>opposes the ultra-right-wing candidate. The article by
Pablo Villaça (in</div>
<div>English) is an accurate review:</div>
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<div><a href="https://www.rogerebert.com/far-flung-correspondents/brazilian-election-2018-bolsonaro" target="_blank">https://www.rogerebert.com/far-flung-correspondents/brazilian-election-2018-bolsonaro</a></div>
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<div>The article is also attached in PDF.</div>
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<div>Bolsonaro threatens to liquidate all NGOs and social
movements -- who</div>
<div>can choose between prison and exile. Fundamental
achievements like our</div>
<div>multistakeholder Internet governance system, our
Internet Bill of</div>
<div>Rights, and many other human rights-related laws are at
risk.</div>
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<div>fraternal regards</div>
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<div>--c.a.</div>
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<div>--</div>
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<div>Carlos A. Afonso</div>
<div>[emails são pessoais exceto quando explicitamente
indicado em contrário]</div>
<div>[emails are personal unless explicitly indicated
otherwise]</div>
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<div>Instituto Nupef - <a href="https://nupef.org.br" target="_blank">https://nupef.org.br</a></div>
<div>ISOC-BR - <a href="https://isoc.org.br" target="_blank">https://isoc.org.br</a></div>
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