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Its off topic but John is right, there is non compliant content on .cat all over the place - but in that point we are talking about non compliance with the .cat charter, not what the takedowns are about so two different topics.
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<div class="">The violence of it all could end up taking offline things which have nothing to do w/ Catalonia at all</div>
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<div class="">i would be careful, though, with the brand "Spanish government". Itself is very divided and so far I haven't really understood who was the genius responsible for this raid.</div>
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<div class="">First - this is a terrible terrible action, the right of people to self organise and decide their future should be sacrosanct and these heavy handed tactics should be denounced far and wide. We fight against this kind of action in far flung corners
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<div class="">Secondly - I don’t think ICANN should have a response, at the end of the day this is a content issue and that is something ICANN has no role in. If the whole of .cat had been taken down yes that would be a different conversation but again, my
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of what is acceptable if people from the international community remain silent. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">But the defence of human rights is non partisan and a collective responsibility. </div>
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<div class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><b class="">Context: </b>Catalunya is holding an independence referendum next month. The Spanish Constitution does not recognize any kind of questioning of the territorial integrity of Spain. But the Catalan
parliament approved having a referendum anyway. Today, Spanish police carried out morning raids at regional government offices in Barcelona, arresting several Catalan officials involved in preparations for the referendum. In addition, websites have been shutdown
or blocked, and .CAT domain technical staff have been detained. Also, the magazines of an important independentist association (Omnium Cultural) have been denied delivery by the Spanish postal service.</span></div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><span style="font-size:12.8px" class=""><b class="">The Internet:</b> Right now, this conflict has definitively spilled over Internet Freedom of Expression, human rights, and the right to an open Internet:</span></div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px" class="">.CAT domain has been intervened by the Spanish Police (Guardia Civil: <a href="https://twitter.com/puntcat/status/910446518494269440" target="_blank" class="">https://twitter.com/puntcat/s<wbr class="">tatus/910446518494269440</a>)
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<div style="font-size:12.8px" class="">This was the webpage calling for the catalan referendum: <a href="http://ref1oct.cat/" target="_blank" class="">http://ref1oct.cat<wbr class="">/</a>. nic.EU is now hosting the webpage, but there are reports that Spanish
authorities have ordered ISPs to block the DNSs: <a href="http://ref1oct.eu/" style="font-size:14px" target="_blank" class="">ref1oct.eu</a></div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px" class="">There are large DDoS attacks on some websites (apparently Cloudflare is under attack, as per some reports<span style="font-size:12.8px" class="">), and there is traffic manipulation by the ISPs (DNS blocking on certain
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