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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 14 July 2017 01:32 AM, James
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on the final point for sure and 100% on transparency.</span></p>
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Sure, everybody is for 100 % transparency, but then only till we
actually begin to talk what that means.<br>
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So let me ask you, James, what would the 100% transparency be that
you agree with..... Like civil society groups should disclose their
funding (unless compelling circumstances which makes is
counter-productive can be proved)? This is a long history of that
discussion in the matter of formation and governance of this very
group bestbits. Maybe you can contribute to it. Look forward to
hearing your response.<br>
parminder <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Renata Avila
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:renata.avila@webfoundation.org">mailto:renata.avila@webfoundation.org</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 13 July 2017 21:00<br>
<b>To:</b> James Gannon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net"><james@cyberinvasion.net></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Renata Aquino Ribeiro <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com"><raquino@gmail.com></a>;
Jeremy Malcolm <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org"><jmalcolm@eff.org></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net>">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a> <
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Accountability group puts
Google in same league as big oil and big tobacco<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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respectfully disagree on your restrictive interpretation
of ICANN mission. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I also
disagree on relaxing accountability on who funds
academic research and its impact. On the contrary, I
think limiting our work to some sort of transparency is
insufficient. Strict accountability is needed to limit
the power of such powerful companies (which are involved
in broader sectors, like defense, health, etc.). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">We need
more and better accountability and also make visible how
big companies (as big Pharma did) are influencing
through lobby, research and "philanthropy" the public
agendas and apply the experience from other sector, like
public health and the environment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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to continue the dialogue off list. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:52 PM,
James Gannon <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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because the auction funds are also bounded by
ICANN mission.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
think that we should trust academics to be able to
conduct research in an independent manner, that we
need to stop looking at the GAFA conspiracy
theories and that we shouldn’t sully those
academics who are working on critical areas of
research for us by claiming that once they are
ever ‘tainted’ by corporate funding that they
should forever have to walk around with a a
Google/FB/etc disclaimer on every word they write
or talk they give or opinion they express. <o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Renata Avila [mailto:<a
href="mailto:renata.avila@webfoundation.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">renata.avila@webfoundation.org</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 13 July 2017 20:31</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>To:</b> James Gannon <<a
href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a
href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">raquino@gmail.com</a>>;
Jeremy Malcolm <<a
href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>>
< <<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Accountability
group puts Google in same league as big oil
and big tobacco<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Well, there is more:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">The
proceeds from New </span><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">gTLD</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"> Program
auctions, <b>which will total more than
$230 million, are being reserved.</b>
The multistakeholder community will
develop proposals for how these proceeds
could be distributed. A community-based
drafting team is currently working on a
charter for a Cross-Community Working
Group that will create recommendations
for Board consideration. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2016-07-28-en"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2016-07-28-en</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">- Google funds
everything, especially advocacy and
research in poor countries. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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If not google, it is Facebook.<o:p></o:p></p>
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That harms legitimacy. <o:p></o:p></p>
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are really scarce for research, advocacy
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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ICANN = 230 million plus 70 million
reserves. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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if we advocate for those funds to
<b>support public interest research</b>,
via a Foundation or similar, instead of
Google (or other companies) funding
research. <o:p></o:p></p>
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Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:21 PM, James Gannon
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ICANN reserve fund is designed to
keep ICANN running in the event of
financial distress and is not
subject to any external use outside
of ICANN, and even if it was it
would still be bound by ICANNs
mission.<o:p></o:p></p>
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not seeing the relationship to the
current discussion at all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Renata Avila
[mailto:<a
href="mailto:renata.avila@webfoundation.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">renata.avila@webfoundation.org</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> 13 July 2017 20:19<br>
<b>To:</b> James Gannon <<a
href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Renata Aquino Ribeiro
<<a
href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">raquino@gmail.com</a>>;
Jeremy Malcolm <<a
href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>>;
<a
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>>
< <<a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits]
Accountability group puts Google
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big tobacco<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">It could be modified,
any time, to support
broader areas... </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Figures in USD
(millions) Page 9. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Link: <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/fy17-unaudited-financials-31mar17-en.pdf"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/fy17-unaudited-financials-31mar17-en.pdf</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Renata
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<p><b><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">Senior
Digital Rights
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On
Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:09
PM, James Gannon <<a
href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Can
you elaborate on this
piece? What ICANN
money, ICANN does some
very limited funding
of research but
doesn’t fund anything
in the area of
advocacy, and there is
very little research
that is within ICANNs
mission anyway.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">-J<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US">
<a
href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>
[mailto:<a
href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Renata
Avila<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 July
2017 20:05<br>
<b>To:</b> Renata
Aquino Ribeiro <<a
href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeremy
Malcolm <<a
href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>>;
<a
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>>
< <<a
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re:
[bestbits]
Accountability group
puts Google in same
league as big oil
and big tobacco</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I
second
Renata. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Our
research and
advocacy space
is suffering
from a funding
problem and it
is harming its
credibility.
It will be
great to have
a larger pool
of funds
supporting our
efforts, which
are becoming
more
mainstream and
relevant for
the next 50
years
(especially
for developing
countries).
The production
of research is
extremely
concentrated
and, as
austerity is
rampant all
over the
World, State
funding to
research is
shrinking by
the day even
for developed
countries at
the same pace
as tax evasion
(or elusion)
(Google is not
guilt free in
this area <a
href="http://fortune.com/2016/03/11/apple-google-taxes-eu/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://fortune.com/2016/03/11/apple-google-taxes-eu/</a>)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">And
in small
countries,
priorities of
both
governments
and private
sector to
support
research
support
traditional
areas, such as
health or
education.
Certainly,
local funds
are not
supporting
local advocacy
efforts for
privacy, net
neutrality,
etc. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">I
think the
problem is
deeper and I
think that, in
order to
continue our
work and
efforts with
impartiality
and
credibility,
we need a
coordinated
effort to get
a diverse pool
of donors and
ways towards
sustainability.
I think the
comparisons of
Big Oil
funding
Greenpeace,
when we talk
about giants
like Facebook
or Google, is
valid now. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">What
about all the
ICANN money?
Will it be
enough to fund
all global and
local advocacy
and at least
part of the
relevant
research? A
global fund?
Crowdfunding
for advocacy
and more
pressure on
governments
for research? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Renata
Avila<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">Senior
Digital Rights
Advisor</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="mailto:renata.avila@webfoundation.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">renata.avila@webfoundation.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Jul
13, 2017 at
8:20 PM,
Renata Aquino
Ribeiro <<a
href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">raquino@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Unless they
are
transparent
about it and
clear about it
not
interfering
with their
research
ethics.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In the public
education
system in
developing
countries it
is quite
common to see
funding being
misused.
Researchers
who get money
from
international
organizations,
even some
national ones,
using public
universities
to advance an
agenda. And
yes, this can
be sometimes
an
astroturfing
exercise. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Which is why
access and
production of
knowledge
needs to be
always
transparent
and public.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Unfortunately
most of
internet
policy has not
waken up to
this yet. I
wonder if it
ever will. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Em 13/07/2017
15:09, "Jeremy
Malcolm" <<a
href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>>
escreveu:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">But here's an
article
putting the
other side of
the story:<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.chronicle.com/article/Scholars-Cry-Foul-at-Their/240635"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.chronicle.com/article/Scholars-Cry-Foul-at-Their/240635</a><br>
<br>
We place
Google Policy
Fellows at
EFF, too.
Does that mean
that whatever
work they do
for the rest
of their
careers is
tainted by the
few thousand
they received
to support
their living
expenses as an
EFF fellow?<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 13/7/17
3:21 am,
parminder
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote
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<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin:1rem;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px">
<blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin:1rem;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px">
<p
style="line-height:18.0pt;background:white;margin:1rem;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">Google
has spent
millions
funding
academic
research in
the US and<span
class="m-5706486385254671925m8016028645852022803m4332408754697446506m-8478249900900100860m4692170354545645344m-8149673231526419264apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/europe-news" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="color:#005689">Europe</span></a><span
class="m-5706486385254671925m8016028645852022803m4332408754697446506m-8478249900900100860m4692170354545645344m-8149673231526419264apple-converted-space"> </span>to
try to
influence
public opinion
and
policymakers,
a watchdog has
claimed.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="line-height:18.0pt;background:white;margin:1rem;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">Over
the last
decade, Google
has funded
research
papers that
appear to
support the
technology
company’s
business
interests and
defend against
regulatory
challenges
such as
antitrust and
anti-piracy,
the US-based
Campaign for
Accountability
(CfA) said<span
class="m-5706486385254671925m8016028645852022803m4332408754697446506m-8478249900900100860m4692170354545645344m-8149673231526419264apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://campaignforaccountability.org/new-report-reveals-googles-extensive-financial-support-for-academia/"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="color:#005689">in a
report</span></a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="line-height:18.0pt;background:white;margin:1rem;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">“Google
uses its
immense wealth
and power to
attempt to
influence
policymakers
at every
level,” said
Daniel
Stevens, CfA
executive
director.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="line-height:18.0pt;background:white;margin:1rem;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">................
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="line-height:18.0pt;background:white;margin:1rem;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">Academics
were directly
funded by
Google in more
than half of
the cases and
in the rest of
the cases
funded
indirectly by
groups or
institutions
supported by
Google, the
CfA said.
Authors, who
were paid
between $5,000
and $400,000
(£3,900-£310,000)
by Google, did
not disclose
the source of
their funding
in 66% of all
cases, and in
26% of those
cases directly
funded by
Google,
according to
the report.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
style="line-height:18.0pt;background:white;margin:1rem;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">...........</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">“Whenever
Google’s bad
behaviour is
exposed, it
invariably
points the
finger at
someone else,”
said Stevens.
“Instead of
deflecting
blame, Google
should address
its record of
academic
astroturfing,
which puts it
in the same
league as big
oil and <a
href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/series/tobacco-a-deadly-business"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
big tobacco</a>.”<o:p></o:p></p>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<p
style="margin:1rem;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/13/google-millions-academic-research-influence-opinion"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/13/google-millions-academic-research-influence-opinion</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">As
we know Google
has recently
been fined $
2.7 billion
for
anti-competitive
practices by
the EU
regulator,
which only
means that in
all countries
that are too
weak to take
on google (or
benefit from
its profits,
meaning the
US) Google
remains in
violation of
competition
(and many
other)
laws..... All
this Google
funded
research and
advocacy, of
dont regulate
the Internet
(read,
Internet
companies),
are playing a
dangerous
game,
seriously
compromising
public
interest.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">It
is time we
declare the
honeymoon of
civil society
and academic
love for
digital global
corporations
over. They are
today like big
oil companies
-- no doubt
the latter
provide what
is still the
main energy
resource that
keeps our
societies
ticking but in
the bargain
they very
often, and
systemically,
indulge in
stuff that
needs
academics and
NGOs to be
watching
against. It is
pretty
difficult to
undertake such
watching while
taking
considerable
money from
them. It is a
simple truism,
but the
digital sector
tends to
ignore it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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