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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">No because the auction funds are also bounded by ICANN mission.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think that we should trust academics to be able to conduct research in an independent manner, that we need to stop looking at the GAFA conspiracy theories and that we shouldn’t sully those academics
who are working on critical areas of research for us by claiming that once they are ever ‘tainted’ by corporate funding that they should forever have to walk around with a a Google/FB/etc disclaimer on every word they write or talk they give or opinion they
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Renata Avila [mailto:renata.avila@webfoundation.org]
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<b>Sent:</b> 13 July 2017 20:31<br>
<b>To:</b> James Gannon <james@cyberinvasion.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino@gmail.com>; Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm@eff.org>; bestbits@lists.bestbits.net> < <bestbits@lists.bestbits.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Accountability group puts Google in same league as big oil and big tobacco<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Well, there is more:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333">The proceeds from New </span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">gTLD</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333"> Program
auctions, <b>which will total more than $230 million, are being reserved.</b> The multistakeholder community will develop proposals for how these proceeds could be distributed. A community-based drafting team is currently working on a charter for a Cross-Community
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2016-07-28-en">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2-2016-07-28-en</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">My point: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">- Google funds everything, especially advocacy and research in poor countries. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- If not google, it is Facebook.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- That harms legitimacy. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Funds are really scarce for research, advocacy and policy. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Meanwhile, ICANN = 230 million plus 70 million reserves. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What if we advocate for those funds to <b>support public interest research</b>, via a Foundation or similar, instead of Google (or other companies) funding research. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is it clear now? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:21 PM, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The ICANN reserve fund is designed to keep ICANN running in the event of financial distress and is not subject to any external use outside of ICANN, and even if it was it would
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Im not seeing the relationship to the current discussion at all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 13 July 2017 20:19<br>
<b>To:</b> James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>>; Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org" target="_blank">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> < <<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:09 PM, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:james@cyberinvasion.net" target="_blank">james@cyberinvasion.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Can you elaborate on this piece? What ICANN money, ICANN does some very limited funding of research but doesn’t fund anything in the area of advocacy, and there is very little research
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<b>Sent:</b> 13 July 2017 20:05<br>
<b>To:</b> Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org" target="_blank">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Accountability group puts Google in same league as big oil and big tobacco</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Our research and advocacy space is suffering from a funding problem and it is harming its credibility. It will be great to have a larger
pool of funds supporting our efforts, which are becoming more mainstream and relevant for the next 50 years (especially for developing countries). The production of research is extremely concentrated and, as austerity is rampant all over the World, State funding
to research is shrinking by the day even for developed countries at the same pace as tax evasion (or elusion) (Google is not guilt free in this area <a href="http://fortune.com/2016/03/11/apple-google-taxes-eu/" target="_blank">http://fortune.com/2016/03/11/apple-google-taxes-eu/</a>)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes it does.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Unless they are transparent about it and clear about it not interfering with their research ethics.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In the public education system in developing countries it is quite common to see funding being misused. Researchers who get money from international organizations, even some national
ones, using public universities to advance an agenda. And yes, this can be sometimes an astroturfing exercise. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Which is why access and production of knowledge needs to be always transparent and public.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Unfortunately most of internet policy has not waken up to this yet. I wonder if it ever will. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Em 13/07/2017 15:09, "Jeremy Malcolm" <<a href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org" target="_blank">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>> escreveu:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">But here's an article putting the other side of the story:<br>
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<a href="http://www.chronicle.com/article/Scholars-Cry-Foul-at-Their/240635" target="_blank">http://www.chronicle.com/article/Scholars-Cry-Foul-at-Their/240635</a><br>
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We place Google Policy Fellows at EFF, too. Does that mean that whatever work they do for the rest of their careers is tainted by the few thousand they received to support their living expenses as an EFF fellow?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On 13/7/17 3:21 am, parminder wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">Google has spent millions funding academic research in the US and<span class="m4332408754697446506m-8478249900900100860m4692170354545645344m-8149673231526419264apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/europe-news" target="_blank"><span style="color:#005689">Europe</span></a><span class="m4332408754697446506m-8478249900900100860m4692170354545645344m-8149673231526419264apple-converted-space"> </span>to
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">Over the last decade, Google has funded research papers that appear to support the technology company’s business interests and defend against regulatory challenges such as antitrust and
anti-piracy, the US-based Campaign for Accountability (CfA) said<span class="m4332408754697446506m-8478249900900100860m4692170354545645344m-8149673231526419264apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://campaignforaccountability.org/new-report-reveals-googles-extensive-financial-support-for-academia/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#005689">in
a report</span></a>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">“Google uses its immense wealth and power to attempt to influence policymakers at every level,” said Daniel Stevens, CfA executive director.
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<span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#333333">Academics were directly funded by Google in more than half of the cases and in the rest of the cases funded indirectly by groups or institutions supported by Google, the CfA said. Authors,
who were paid between $5,000 and $400,000 (£3,900-£310,000) by Google, did not disclose the source of their funding in 66% of all cases, and in 26% of those cases directly funded by Google, according to the report.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">“Whenever Google’s bad behaviour is exposed, it invariably points the finger at someone else,” said Stevens. “Instead of deflecting blame, Google should address its record of academic
astroturfing, which puts it in the same league as big oil and <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/series/tobacco-a-deadly-business" target="_blank">
big tobacco</a>.”<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:1rem;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/13/google-millions-academic-research-influence-opinion" target="_blank">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/13/google-millions-academic-research-influence-opinion</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">As we know Google has recently been fined $ 2.7 billion for anti-competitive practices by the EU regulator, which only means that in all countries that are too weak to take on google (or benefit from its profits,
meaning the US) Google remains in violation of competition (and many other) laws..... All this Google funded research and advocacy, of dont regulate the Internet (read, Internet companies), are playing a dangerous game, seriously compromising public interest.
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<p><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">It is time we declare the honeymoon of civil society and academic love for digital global corporations over. They are today like big oil companies -- no doubt the latter provide what is still the main energy
resource that keeps our societies ticking but in the bargain they very often, and systemically, indulge in stuff that needs academics and NGOs to be watching against. It is pretty difficult to undertake such watching while taking considerable money from them.
It is a simple truism, but the digital sector tends to ignore it.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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