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<p>Dear Parminder, Others (am also copying in the IRPC list). <br>
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<p>There is clearly still lots to debate, on the macro level of past
and future ownership and control of the strategically important
aspects of the internet's infrastructure (content being another
matter altogether). To date the debates about ICANN, positions
for/against and all other shades, have occurred on lists with well
informed, and committed participants. <br>
</p>
<p>To date there is little out there for an informed, wider public.
This is why comments on the <a
href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaLiberties/pranesh-prakash/jurisdiction-taboo-topic-at-icann">Prakash
piece</a>, or indeed others on this page that may relate to the
spectrum of issues that keeps all these lists alive and actively
arriving in our in=boxes, would help inform that wider audience. <br>
</p>
<p>It is a key reason why I have been working with openDemocracy to
present these issues to a wider readership so all comments welcome
to the ICANN piece. <br>
</p>
<p>Other articles, including a critical analysis of a UK-based
initiative for digital rights by Paul Bernal available at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri">https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri</a>. <br>
</p>
<p>warm wishes</p>
<p>MF<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/10/2016 14:07, parminder wrote:<br>
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Marianne Franklin wrote:<br>
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<p>Dear Parminder</p>
<p>Thanks for sending over this piece in a growing literature on
ICANN and it future. <br>
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<p>Just to note that Pranesh's less than celebratory analysis
for the ICANN transition has been published on the
openDemocracy series, Human Rights and the Internet, at <a
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href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaLiberties/pranesh-prakash/jurisdiction-taboo-topic-at-icann">https://www.opendemocracy.net/digitaLiberties/pranesh-prakash/jurisdiction-taboo-topic-at-icann</a>.
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Thanks Marianne,<br>
<br>
Yes, absolutely not at all celebratory! I had read it a few months
back, and should have had it in my mind when I made that comment.
But then, isnt it surprising that when two of the very few CS
groups in India consider that not much has happened with the so
called 'transition' in terms of loosening of US control over
ICANN, there is simply no murmurs in the CS community globally to
actually take this issue up - in a political manner, like making a
statement and so on. I may repeat what I have said so many tomes
earlier - in all the multistakeholder meetings that I saw
organised in India in the transition processes it was always
concluded that there are two key issues to sort out - an
'external' oversight mechanism, and jurisdiction issue. What we
have is an oversight which is hardly external, and the
jurisdiction issue is being completely buried. But still it seems
that everyone -- more or less -- is just celebrating the
'transition' with no critical take being adopted. <br>
<br>
As Pranesh's article points out, seeking a host country agreement
or in other words jurisdictional immunity for ICANN from the US
was the demand of Internet Governance Caucus in 2005. The all
round social- political importance of the domain name system has
only greatly enhanced in the last 10 years, and so the US's
jurisdictional control over it should be ever less acceptable --
but why is no major civil society group today able to get up and
say the same thing which IGC said and asked for in 2005?
Especially when a process is actually taking place which is
formally examining the jurisdiction question. I sometimes
participate in that ICANN WG on jurisdiction, where every effort
is on to bury this question - and i finds almost no civil society
voice there. <br>
<br>
People here may want to ponder this question - has the US
stranglehold on the IG discourse actually tightened since then -
meaning WSIS in 2005? Or perhaps there could be other reasons,
which I did not think of, and others can enlighten me on. (not
addressed to you Marianne :), it is general)<br>
<br>
Parminder <br>
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PS: Excuse me to cc this to IGC list, where a similar discussion
is on... Those who respond may exercise discretion whether they
want to respond to both elists or one of them. <br>
<br>
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<p>best <br>
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<p>MF</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/10/2016 15:48, parminder
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<p><font face="Verdana">Hi All</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">I wrote this commentary piece in the
Economic and Political Weekly of India on ICANN's
oversight transition. For such an important and
multi-faceted event, it is surprising that I have come
across no article that is other than absolutely
celebratory about it, and catches properly the different
nuances that are involved. Such a monochromatic
discourse in the global IG space is not a good
indication. There is an especial lack of views from a
progressive and social justice perspective, and from the
geopolitical South, both of which I have tried to catch
in this brief article. <br>
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<h1 class="western" style="font-weight: normal"><b><font
style="font-size: 14pt" size="+2">Internet Governance:
Is the Internet Really Free of US Control?</font></b></h1>
<p>"The recent decision of the United States government to
cede its control over the internet’s naming and addressing
system to the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers (ICANN), a US-based international non-profit body,
is heralded as a significant step towards the
globalisation of internet’s core infrastructure. But with
ICANN having no special jurisdictional immunity and
subject to the whims of the judicial and legislative
branches of the US government as well as many of its
executive agencies, the decision seems more symbolic than
meaningful."</p>
<p><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.epw.in/journal/2016/42/web-exclusives/internet-governance.html">http://www.epw.in/journal/2016/42/web-exclusives/internet-governance.html</a></p>
Comments are welcome.<br>
parminder </div>
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Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
Goldsmiths (University of London)
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Digital Dilemmas: Power, Resistance and the Internet (Oxford University Press)
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Championing Human Rights on the Internet (I-VI)
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“What does (the Study of) World Politics Sound Like?”
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Marianne Franklin, PhD
Professor of Global Media and Politics
Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
Goldsmiths (University of London)
Department of Media & Communications
New Cross, London SE14 6NW
Tel: +44 207 9197072
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk"><m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk></a>
@GloComm
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gold.ac.uk/media-communications/staff/franklin/">http://www.gold.ac.uk/media-communications/staff/franklin/</a>
Chair of the Global Internet Governance Academic Network (GigaNet)
Steering Committee/Former Co-Chair Internet Rights & Principles Coalition )
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.internetrightsandprinciples.org">www.internetrightsandprinciples.org</a>
@netrights
Special Series Editor, Human Rights and the Internet
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri">https://www.opendemocracy.net/hri</a>
Digital Dilemmas: Power, Resistance and the Internet (Oxford University Press)
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://global.oup.com/academic/product/digital-dilemmas-9780199982707?cc=nl&lang=en&q=Digital%20dilemmas&tab=reviews#">http://global.oup.com/academic/product/digital-dilemmas-9780199982707?cc=nl&lang=en&q=Digital%20dilemmas&tab=reviews#</a>
Championing Human Rights on the Internet (I-VI)
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.opendemocracy.net/marianne-franklin/championing-human-rights-on-internet-part-six-summing-up-too-much-or-not-enough">https://www.opendemocracy.net/marianne-franklin/championing-human-rights-on-internet-part-six-summing-up-too-much-or-not-enough</a>
“What does (the Study of) World Politics Sound Like?”
co-authored with Matt Davies in World Politics and Popular Culture: Theories, Methods, Pedagogies
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.e-ir.info/2015/04/22/edited-collection-popular-culture-and-world-politics/">http://www.e-ir.info/2015/04/22/edited-collection-popular-culture-and-world-politics/</a>
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