<div dir="ltr"><div>yes, that is true...there will not be negotiation <b>IF</b> the strategy is to just have other countries sign on to TISA when that one is deposited at WTO and open for additional signatories (which we have heard of already) </div><div><br></div><div>in the case of TPP and TTIP, since they are regional ...it might be the case countries that are not part of those regions cannot simply sign on. But the same text can be re-named and tabled. In that case, there is theoretical space for negotiation. But the trade offs pro-trade are just too strong.</div><div><br></div><div>So, my intention here is that folks are aware of all of these and that we decide what to do (or not) ...and how this impacts each organization strategy in terms of investing time and resources. At the end of the day...these are the hard law, binding rules .... </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 6:14 AM, Burcu Kilic <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bkilic@citizen.org" target="_blank">bkilic@citizen.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Exactly! As one US lobbyists described this process as ‘<b>creating alternative “play-by-the-rules” clubs of like-minded countries’</b>.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">TISA (Trade in Services Agreement) is a very good example of this. It currently being negotiated between 20+ parties (counting the EU as one), who call themselves,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The negotiators aim is to extend the scope and rules of the General Agreement on Trade in Services (GATS) at the WTO. Attempts to achieve that goal through
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The US and its industry are dominant players in TISA negotiations.
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Fwd: WTO Needs Far-Reaching Digital Trade Pact, Experts Say<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">..(and still saving the right to disagree with myself later) ...negotiations at the WTO are more transparent than all of those tons of trade agreement negotiations happening around the world behind closed door....<u></u><u></u></p>
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That is true, but hardly addresses the point that trade governance forums are not the best place to evolve Internet related policies... Meanwhile do note that the author commends the TPP and TTIP treaties and seek to make them " a basis for developing a specific
agreement on digital trade that should be negotiated at the WTO on a plurilateral basis".<br>
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Also, do see that the authors are not asking for multilateral negotiations, but even within the WTO just plurilateral ones, so that the 'default frameworks' are not threatened by something as dumbly democratic as majoritarianism .<br>
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This is the typical global governance for the powerful today; develop the basic governance paradigm and frameworks among a selective group, entrench it through the economic might of the select group, and then seek all countries to get co-opted through accession,
or taking these frameworks to plurilateral/ multilateral venues, with the basic frameworks already entrenched and very little leeway left for new 'participants'.
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I do not think that civil society speaking out against such a pro-powerful governance model would be considered a philosophical exercise. One sees a very larger number of global civil society groups and networks routinely do it.<br>
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social- centric (where human rights, equality, social justice would certainly have more prominence) treatment of issues, we would end up with trade (and security) -centric forums making global Internet policies for us... Civil society must therefore take its
share of the responsibility for this unfortunate trend. While the civil society has been given the multistakeholder teddy bear (or as a colleague called it, a rattle toy) to keep itself occupied with, real work goes on elsewhere...
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:18.0pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#444444">Law360, New York (January 22, 2016, 3:03 PM ET) -- Policymakers around the globe should begin thinking about
negotiations for an expansive World Trade Organization agreement devoted solely to digital trade, e-commerce and telecommunications issues, according to an expert paper circulated at the World Economic Forum Friday.<br>
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While acknowledging the progress made on digital trade in recent regional trade deals, the paper — prepared jointly by the WEF and the the International Centre for Trade and Sustainable Development — said the time has come for an agreement that tackles those
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“There is a need to develop greater consensus or a critical mass around core concepts regarding cross-border data flows,” the paper said. “Rules and principles to support and expand digital trade are being inserted in some trade agreements. This is a positive
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“This work provides a basis for developing a specific agreement on digital trade that should be negotiated at the WTO on a plurilateral basis — open to those interested in joining, with consideration given to applying any such agreement on a [most-favored-nation]
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On an overarching policy level, the paper argued that a new agreement should allow for the unconstrained flow of data across borders between willing partners, and that the only exception should be one that is narrowly tailored and based on national security
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Furthermore, the experts said there ought to be wide-ranging rules barring countries from requiring data to be stored only on local servers as a condition for market entry. This concept is enshrined within the TPP, but that agreement has also <a href="http://www.law360.com/articles/746082/obama-issues-formal-tpp-call-as-gop-clashes-loom" target="_blank"><span style="color:#00427f;text-decoration:none">drawn
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Even before launching new WTO talks on digital trade, the paper recommended updating certain existing WTO pacts to better accommodate 21st century traders, beginning with the Trade Facilitation Agreement.<br>
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The TFA — which was completed in 2013 and has been ratified by 68 WTO members — aims to streamline the flow of goods across borders around the globe, but could be modernized by installing a unified de minimis customs level under which no duties will applied,
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“For trade in lower value goods that the Internet is enabling, such costs account for a relatively larger share of the total value, making it an even more serious trade barrier,” the paper said.<br>
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More broadly, the World Economic Forum and International Centre for Trade and Sustainable Development experts said that throughout these processes, there should be a robust dialogue between governments, the private sector and advocacy groups that often pushed
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“Ensuring security of the network is one of the key issues that affects consumer and business confidence in addition to the direct costs that security breaches have on individual businesses,” they said.<br>
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