<div dir="ltr">Telegram it is!!! Plus it is more secure and you can erase messages :-)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Hi</p>
<p dir="ltr">Just adding some info:<br>
Whatsapp was fined before being blocked, they just didn't pay the fines</p>
<p dir="ltr">Now Facebook is encouraging Brazilian users to turn to Messenger</p>
<p dir="ltr">Instead half a million started Telegram accounts in over 1 hour</p>
<p dir="ltr">[]s</p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">Em 17/12/2015 10:55, "Carolina Rossini" <<a href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com" target="_blank">carolina.rossini@gmail.com</a>> escreveu:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div>all we know is:<br><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">- this decision came out as part of a criminal case that is under legal confidentiality ("justice secret") </div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">- so all our information is based on press releases from Sao Paulo courts</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><span style="font-size:12.8px">- more than 100 million Brazilians use WhatsApp</span><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">- 0hrs of the 12/17 was when the 48hrs started - <a href="http://www.tjsp.jus.br/institucional/canaiscomunicacao/noticias/Noticia.aspx?Id=29056" target="_blank">http://www.tjsp.jus.br/institucional/canaiscomunicacao/noticias/Noticia.aspx?Id=29056</a><div><br></div><div>- a superior tribunal, on the morning of the 17th, invalidated the Sao Bernardo Judge - <a href="http://www.conjur.com.br/2015-dez-17/tj-sao-paulo-suspende-bloqueio-aplicativo-whatsapp" target="_blank">http://www.conjur.com.br/2015-dez-17/tj-sao-paulo-suspende-bloqueio-aplicativo-whatsapp</a></div><div><br></div><div>- it seems the blocking was based on the refusal of WhatsApp to provide data that was relevant to a criminal investigation...WhatsApp/FB used old arguments (similar to 2007/2008 Google cases), saying Brazil did not have the jurisdiction</div><div><br></div><div>- based on MC, Brazil does have jurisdiction</div><div><br></div><div>- BUT, the decision was just now invalidated since it was disproportional and unnecessary...it inflicted consumers/users...and not only the company. The judge could have just threaten the company with gigantic fines or possibly to put executives in jail ...but not cut the whole service </div><div><br></div><div>- MC needs to be applied following the Constitution and its own principles, not in a vacuum </div><div><br></div><div>- BUT....IT IS IMPORTANT TO notice that since the case in going under justice secret, we do not even know if MC was used in the judge legal rational for the blocking </div><div><br></div><div>- WhatsApp/FB position was extremely not helpful to the discussion of internet rights in Brazil ...it puts the discussion back to arguments from 2007/2008...and belittles MC debate and achievements </div><div><br></div><div>- this might have terrible repercussions for the reform of telco law in Brazil, where telco companies what to have OTT companies regulated </div><div><div><img src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></div></div></div></div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.6667px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><div dir="ltr" style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.6667px"><i>Carolina Rossini </i></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.6667px"><font color="#666666"><i>Vice President, International Policy</i></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.6667px"><b><font color="#666666">Public Knowledge</font></b></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#0000ff"><span style="font-size:12.6667px"><u><a href="http://www.publicknowledge.org/" target="_blank">http://www.publicknowledge.org/</a></u></span></font><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.6667px"><a value="+16176979389" style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">+ 1 6176979389 | </a><font color="#666666">skype: carolrossini | </font><font color="#0000ff">@carolinarossini</font></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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