<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Parminder,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I hadn’t actually appreciated this though in hindsight it is only logical that I would have. As to your question, as I was not involved in that process I cannot speak to how it worked, though it is all published on the NGLS website I think.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 31 Oct 2015, at 13:43, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" class="">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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    <font face="Verdana" class="">Nick<br class="">
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      I am sure that you understand what is it that I am objecting to
      bec I made it very clear in my email. I am *not* objecting to a
      novel process that may be devised to set up a selection committee
      of civil society persons to nominate civil society speakers.
      (Although unlike what may be true in other areas, in IG area we
      precisely have such a self organising system within the CS, which
      is an important point to keep in sight.) What I am objecting to is
      the presence of business and technical community members (ICANN/
      ISOC), meaning non civil society members, in any such selection
      committee..<br class="">
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      Do you confirm that the climate summit process, that was rewarded,
      and you say is now the accepted process, involved business members
      in the selection committee that selected civil society speakers? I
      dont think so, but I will let to comment on it. <br class="">
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      If not, your arugments are quite beside the point here. <br class="">
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      So lets focus on the issue which is under contention - to repeat,
      the problem of business persons and tech community (read ICANN/
      ISOC) selecting CS reps... It is NOT this civil society nomination
      process or that, *as long as the selection committee is made of
      civil society persons*.<br class="">
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      parminder<br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 31 October 2015 04:40 PM,
      Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:<br class="">
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      Dear Lea, Parminder, and others,
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      <div class="">FYI, the process below - like that previously for CS
        - is a standard operatiing process for NY now as it is seen by
        the 38th floor, and the PGA’s office, as being a real success
        story in getting interesting voices whom existing selection
        processes might not have surfaced. The person at NGLS who
        pioneered this with the climate summit in 2014 was just <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?ca=b21d8b63-9909-4a07-b3c2-5b10050f2743&c=47897580-6ef2-11e5-8573-d4ae5284205e&ch=48688ae0-6ef2-11e5-8694-d4ae5284205e" class="">given an award by the Secretary-General personally
          for her efforts</a> - she’s actually a committed and really
        tremendous person who genuinely feels a passion for ensuring CS
        voices are effective at the UN named Susan Alzner. All of this
        suggests that the UN will probably resist changing a process
        that they just awarded because of requests that you all may
        make.</div>
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      <div class="">Nothing wrong with making a point about this, but at
        the same time I would also put some effort into the selection
        committee and ensuring selectors put themselves forward that you
        believe will make good choices, including perhaps a fulsome
        consultation with the broader community. Anyone who wants to
        talk to Susan let me know, I’d be glad to introduce you.</div>
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      <div class="">Regards, Nick</div>
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            <div class="">On 31 Oct 2015, at 11:42, Lea Kaspar <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lea@gp-digital.org" class="">lea@gp-digital.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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                <div class="">Hi Ian, Parminder,</div>
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                <div class="">Thanks for putting this on our agenda. Not
                  against taking a stand on this. We have precedent with
                  the IGF MAG, so could point to that. Although not
                  ideal, UN DESA did take on 9/10 CSCG recommendations
                  in the last MAG intake. And seeing as the MAG
                  selection process is still something that needs
                  improvement, we could leverage this effort (if
                  successful) in the next round of MAG nominations.</div>
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                    255, 255, 0);" class="">Going beyond the principle,
                    I'd also be interested to hear from CS who were
                    sitting on the selection committee for the July WSIS
                    event (I think the UN used the same selection
                    mechanism). Did that work at all? Would the final
                    selection of CS reps at the July event been
                    different had CS had control over the process? </span></div>
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                <div class="">While we're on the topic, Ian, does the
                  CSCG actively monitor UN calls for CS representation
                  in relevant spaces? For instance, did the CSCG ever
                  discuss the call for nominations for the Adis Ababa
                  Technology Facilitation Mechanism Advisory Group? The
                  call has now passed (last weekend I think), and IMO
                  it's a real shame that we didn't have a broader CS
                  discussion about this. The TFM is passing under
                  people's radar, but could end up being influential in
                  the broader IG ecosystem. </div>
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                <div class="">Best wishes,</div>
                <div class="">Lea<br class="">
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                  Sent from my iPhone</div>
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                  On 31 Oct 2015, at 08:08, Ian Peter <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" class="">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>>
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                        <div class="">Is there general agreement we
                          should write something pointing this out and
                          asking for a process where CS chooses its own
                          reps?</div>
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                        <div class="">Perhaps we could ask for UNDESA to
                          forward CS names submitted to us and we will
                          advise our choices?</div>
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                        <div class="">Interested in other opinions on
                          this.... we would have to move quickly...</div>
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                              <div style="font-color: black" class=""><b class="">From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="parminder@itforchange.net" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" class="">parminder</a> </div>
                              <div class=""><b class="">Sent:</b>
                                Saturday, October 31, 2015 6:58 PM</div>
                              <div class=""><b class="">To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="ian.peter@ianpeter.com" href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" class="">Ian Peter</a> ; <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" class="">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>
                                ; <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" class="">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
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                              <div class=""><b class="">Subject:</b> Re:
                                [governance] [bestbits] NOTE - Call for
                                Nomination: Stakeholder Speakers at the
                                General Assembly High-level Meeting on
                                WSIS+10</div>
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                            what para 3 of part I of the section on
                            roadmap of the NetMundial outcome document
                            says:<br class="">
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                          </font><p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0cm" class=""><font class="" face="sans-serif"><font style="FONT-SIZE: 13pt" class="" size="4">"Stakeholder representatives
                                appointed to multistakeholder Internet
                                governance processes should be selected
                                through open , democratic, and
                                transparent processes. Different <i class=""><b class="">stakeholder
                                    groups should self - manage their
                                    processes based on inclusive,
                                    publicly known, well defined and
                                    accountable mechanism</b></i>s."
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                          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 31
                            October 2015 01:19 PM, parminder wrote:<br class="">
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                            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 31
                              October 2015 12:47 PM, Ian Peter wrote:<br class="">
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                                  <div class="">Hi Parminder,</div>
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                                  <div class="">While I agree with your
                                    analysis,</div>
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                            Ian, I am not sure you are seeing it the way
                            I am. This is not about 4-5 of us getting a
                            few minutes from the podium. This is about
                            civil society representation will be chosen
                            in the IG space. And if you really feel it
                            the way i do, why would you not agree to
                            write as such to those in charge of the
                            process. <br class="">
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                                  <div class="">I don’t think there is
                                    any chance at all that this process
                                    will be changed in the short
                                    timeframe involved, however strong a
                                    protest we make. </div>
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                            As I said, it does not matter if it changes.
                            There is a larger structural point here. On
                            the other hand, I am about 90 percent sure
                            that if all groups involved in CSCG writes
                            that this is not right, and please let us do
                            our own selection they would agree. Civil
                            society seems to have forgotten to leverage
                            its legitimacy, and we seem to cave in to
                            just about everything, a being beyond us to
                            influence. This is not how it should be at
                            all, <br class="">
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                                  <div class="">So my own thoughts are
                                    that it is probably best to get
                                    involved, and from that position
                                    make a strong statement that the
                                    process is flawed and problematic
                                    from our point of view.</div>
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                            Are you saying that the chosen speakers will
                            speak from the podium that this process is
                            flawed, and in this way? Please be clear.
                            But if we are ready to have our speakers
                            speak about it at the high level meeting,
                            why would we not want to write about it to
                            the co-facilitators and the concerned UN
                            bureaucracy? Isnt that much simpler, and at
                            least have the potential of meaningful
                            impact.<br class="">
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                                        also feel that we should be
                                        involved because in doing so we
                                        are able to correct some
                                        excesses from our point of view,
                                        but certainly not all.</font></div>
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                            <font class="" size="3"><font class="" face="Calibri">Again, did not
                                understand. What excesses, and how are
                                they corrected?</font></font><br class="">
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                                      that’s just a personal point of
                                      view.  We have just opened a
                                      discussion on this in CSCG and
                                      decisions may be quite different.</div>
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                                      problem is that CSCG as such
                                      cannot nominate. Those who can
                                      according to this process are: </div>
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                            These criteria are for those individuals who
                            want to apply to be on the multistakeholder
                            selection committee. My proposal is to
                            disassociate CS selection from this
                            multistakeholder selection process, and ask
                            for CSCG to do it (I find it highly likely
                            that they'd agree). So, the issue of the
                            creteria you mention simply does not apply
                            to the proposal I am making and seeking your
                            and other people's views on. <br class="">
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                                        organizations in consultative
                                        status with the Economic and
                                        Social Council • Organizations
                                        accredited to the World Summit
                                        on the Information Society held
                                        in Geneva (2003) and Tunis
                                        (2005) • Organizations
                                        accredited to the WSIS Forum
                                        held from 2011 to 2015 •
                                        Organizations with observer
                                        status with the United Nations
                                        Conference on Trade and
                                        Development • Attendees of the
                                        UNESCO WSIS+10 - ICT4D
                                        Conference or the UNESCO WSIS -
                                        Connecting the Dots Conference •
                                        Organizations accredited to the
                                        Financing for Development (FFD)
                                        process • Organizations
                                        accredited to the United Nations
                                        Sustainable Development Summit
                                        2015 • Organizations already
                                        accredited to the WSIS+10
                                        process (July and October
                                        meetings)</font></div>
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                                  <div class="">
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                                  <div class="">
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                                      CSCG as such is involved, it will
                                      have to be with our nominations as
                                      representatives of civil society
                                      organisations who do fit one at
                                      least of the above criteria.</div>
                                  </div>
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                            </blockquote>
                            <br class="">
                            I am not asking for the CSCG to get involved
                            with this multistakeholder selection
                            process. On the contrary, I am asking for us
                            to disassociate from it. <br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            <blockquote cite="mid:E4640F478CC849B8A547991B3DB585D2@Toshiba" type="cite" class="">
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                                  <div class="">
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                                      problem is that the time frame for
                                      selecting speakers is roughly that
                                      of IGF – and with a 15 hour
                                      estimated commitment it may not be
                                      easy to find people able to
                                      represent us. I believe that if we
                                      are involved we should try to fill
                                      both civil society slots on the
                                      selection panel. But that will
                                      have to be as two separate
                                      nominations (backed by CSCG) from
                                      different CS groups.</div>
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                              </div>
                            </blockquote>
                            <br class="">
                            Again, you are speaking of CSCG getting
                            involved with the current process, which is
                            fundamentally different from my proposal to
                            ask for CS nominations to be taken off the
                            multistakeholder process, and be taken over
                            by CSCG itself. Same about the rest of your
                            email below.<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            Ian, lets look at it in two parts. Do the
                            involved CS groups agree that other
                            stakeholders  - big business, gov, ICANN/
                            ISOC - should not be involved in selection
                            of its reps? Yes or no. If yes, then let us
                            that put down in a letter. I am happy to
                            fight the case, but if we have such a
                            position and want to fight the case. We
                            cannot keep citing expediency for just
                            everything. But if we are ok with such a
                            process, that is a different matter, and let
                            different groups and individuals give their
                            views... Their has to be some limit to - we
                            agree it is wrong, but....<br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            parminder <br class="">
                            <br class="">
                            <blockquote cite="mid:E4640F478CC849B8A547991B3DB585D2@Toshiba" type="cite" class="">
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                                      we do nominate representatives on
                                      the selection panel, we have to do
                                      so this week. </div>
                                  </div>
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                                      I may add a further factor – I
                                      will be stepping down as the
                                      Independent Chair of CSCG shortly,
                                      as my term expires soon. I will
                                      not be standing again, as various
                                      factors are making it difficult
                                      for me to maintain an active
                                      involvement in these forums; and I
                                      think it is time for one of our
                                      very talented (and younger)
                                      members to take over.  CSCG is
                                      currently drafting an EOI to seek
                                      a new independent Chair, with the
                                      aim of opening that process before
                                      IGF so that people get a chance to
                                      discuss it while many are present
                                      in Brazil. So the replacement
                                      process hopefully will complete by
                                      the end of this year.</div>
                                  </div>
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                                      these circumstances – it would be
                                      good to hear from anyone who has
                                      an interest in working with CSCG
                                      as part of this particular
                                      process; I don’t necessarily want
                                      to be involved if we have good
                                      reps able to consult with CSCG
                                      members. If anyone is interested
                                      in this and wants to contact me
                                      privately to assist in this way, 
                                      I would be happy to discuss
                                      further and approach CSCG as
                                      regards their involvement.</div>
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                                      for opening up a discussion on
                                      this. </div>
                                  </div>
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                                      Peter</div>
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                                      <div style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5" class="">
                                        <div style="font-color: black" class=""><b class="">From:</b>
                                          <a title="parminder@itforchange.net" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">parminder</a>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class=""><b class="">Sent:</b>
                                          Saturday, October 31, 2015
                                          3:32 PM</div>
                                        <div class=""><b class="">To:</b>
                                          <a title="bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>
                                          ; <a title="governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class=""><b class="">Subject:</b>
                                          Re: [bestbits] NOTE - Call for
                                          Nomination: Stakeholder
                                          Speakers at the General
                                          Assembly High-level Meeting on
                                          WSIS+10</div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div class=""> </div>
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                                    inline;" class=""><font class="" face="Verdana">Please see the
                                      below announcement.<br class="">
                                      <br class="">
                                      It seems that there is a strong
                                      effort to institutionalise a
                                      system of civil society reps for
                                      speaker roles, but perhaps later
                                      also for more substantive roles, </font>being
                                    selected by multistakeholder
                                    committees, meaning that big
                                    business and technical community
                                    gets a veto over civil society rep
                                    selection. (Do remember here that
                                    'technical community' here is not
                                    that odd free and open software
                                    group volunteering their time in
                                    supporting government schools or the
                                    such. This term is accepted in the
                                    IG world now to denote those who
                                    work for and represent organisations
                                    engaged with technical governance of
                                    the Internet, and thus represent a
                                    governance status quo group. The
                                    semantic confusion about the term,
                                    as being people with technical
                                    capacities, is deliberate in order
                                    to utilise a certain legitimacy for
                                    what is a power based governance
                                    system.)<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    The structural problem with such a
                                    process should be obvious.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    This is not acceptable for me, my
                                    organisation and the networks that I
                                    work with. Civil society has
                                    traditionally been fiercely
                                    protective of its independence,
                                    which includes the right to choose
                                    its own nominees (for instance, any
                                    efforts at national govs 'clearing'
                                    civil society reps from their
                                    countries has been strongly resisted
                                    at the UN and other global
                                    governance levels).  I think we need
                                    to write back to those responsible
                                    for this process that , thanks but
                                    no thanks, you tell us how many CS
                                    sepakers you want and we have a
                                    process of selection for CS reps and
                                    we will deliver the names by the
                                    date you want.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    May I appeal to Ian and the CSCG to
                                    frame and send such a letter to WSIS
                                    process co-facilitators, and the
                                    concerned UN bureaucracy, at the
                                    earliest. Before these mentioned
                                    deadlines pass.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Meanwhile, let me give some
                                    background on this....<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Just Net Coalition did write a
                                    letter addressed to the
                                    co-facilitators against such a
                                    process of big business sitting over
                                    decisions on CS reps. It seems to
                                    have had no effect.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    A few years back, there was an
                                    attempt by a certain group in the
                                    IGF MAG, led by the then Exec
                                    Director of the IGF, Markus Kummer,
                                    to institute a method of selections
                                    of non gov MAG members by a
                                    committee of older non gov MAG
                                    members. I was able to attend MAG
                                    meetings in those days as a Special
                                    Advisor to the chair. I opposed such
                                    a process of CS nominee selection by
                                    a committee that included big
                                    business and technical community 
                                    (read the ICANN/ ISOC system). I was
                                    able to get the support of a few CS
                                    MAG members in the room, and I
                                    distinctly remember Graciala,
                                    Katitza, and Foaud in this regard,
                                    and perhaps a person or two more
                                    whose names may have dropped from my
                                    memory (my apologies).... And
                                    because of the CS opposition this
                                    problematic move had to be
                                    abandoned.  Now it seems to be
                                    coming back from another door, and
                                    we need to stand up against it once
                                    again.<br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    Again, we have very little
                                    turnaround time here. <br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    parminder <br class="">
                                    <br class="">
                                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On
                                      Friday 30 October 2015 08:04 PM,
                                      Carolina Rossini wrote:<br class="">
                                    </div>
                                    <blockquote cite="mid:CAK-FJAc__WvJ0z-QxqozVbbMV65+J_va543-y0+R8BBP=fjYEg@mail.gmail.com" type="cite" class="">
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                                          ---------- Forwarded message
                                          ----------<br class="">
                                          From: <b class="gmail_sendername">NGO
                                            News</b> <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ngonews@un.org" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">ngonews@un.org</a>></span><br class="">
                                          Date: Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at
                                          10:14 AM<br class="">
                                          Subject: [NGO <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="news:]" class="">News:]</a>
                                          Call for Nomination:
                                          Stakeholder Speakers at the
                                          General Assembly High-level
                                          Meeting on WSIS+10<br class="">
                                          To: <a href="mailto:crossini@publicknowledge.org" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">crossini@publicknowledge.org</a><br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          <br class="">
                                          <div class=""><p class=""><strong class="">Deadlines:           
                                              </strong></p><p class=""><span style="COLOR:
                                                rgb(255,0,0)" class=""><strong class="">8 November
                                                  2015: Apply for
                                                  Selection Committee</strong></span></p><p class=""><span style="COLOR:
                                                rgb(255,0,0)" class=""><strong class="">12 November
                                                  2015: Apply for
                                                  Speaking Roles</strong></span></p><p class=""><strong class="">The
                                                General Assembly
                                                High-level Meeting on
                                                the overall review of
                                                the implementation of
                                                the outcomes of the
                                                World Summit on the
                                                Information Society will
                                                take place on 15-16
                                                December 2015 at the UN
                                                Headquarters in New
                                                York.</strong></p><p class="">This high-level
                                              meeting will provide an
                                              opportunity for in-depth
                                              discussions on important
                                              issues in the
                                              implementation of the WSIS
                                              outcomes, including the
                                              progress, gaps and
                                              challenges, as well as
                                              areas for future actions.</p><p class=""><strong class="">To
                                                apply to speak at the
                                                High-level Meeting,
                                                please complete the form
                                                available <a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ffRSw8C5UGYRKrzdpCiWnyc2EMVTbmZ1SVGNnhs0FcQ/viewform" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">here</a></strong>.
                                              Applications will be
                                              accepted from <strong class="">30 October to</strong> <strong class="">12 November
                                                2015</strong>.</p><p class=""><strong class="">A
                                                Selection Committee will
                                                be established</strong>
                                              in order to ensure broad
                                              and inclusive
                                              participation of
                                              stakeholders in the
                                              high-level meeting.
                                              Applications to the
                                              Selection Committee will
                                              be accepted from <strong class="">30 October to 8
                                                November 2015</strong>.
                                              To learn more about the
                                              Selection Committee,
                                              please see the Terms of
                                              Reference <span class="">by
                                                <a href="http://csonet.org/content/documents/WSIS+10_ToR_Steering_Committee.pdf" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">clicking on
                                                  this link</a></span>.
                                              <strong class="">To apply
                                                to participate in the
                                                stakeholder Selection
                                                Committee, please
                                                complete the form
                                                available </strong><a href="https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1pzCRKLri16XUMNYNA9QECFnhCrO9Ub7ex0Ho2vdYp2k/viewform" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class=""><strong class="">here</strong></a><strong class="">.</strong></p><p class=""><strong class="">Background</strong></p><p class="">In December of
                                              2003, the world came
                                              together in Geneva at the
                                              World Summit on
                                              Information Society (WSIS)
                                              to declare a "common
                                              desire and commitment to
                                              build a people-centred,
                                              inclusive and
                                              development-oriented
                                              Information Society," and
                                              ushered in an era of
                                              harnessing the power of
                                              information and
                                              communication technology
                                              to contribute to the
                                              achievement of the
                                              Millennium Development
                                              Goals (MDGs). The
                                              resulting Geneva Plan of
                                              Action established targets
                                              and the eleven action
                                              lines, which guide
                                              development in specific
                                              areas.</p><p class="">The second phase
                                              of WSIS, conducted in
                                              Tunis in 2005, built upon
                                              the achievements of the
                                              Geneva Plan, with the
                                              resulting Tunis Agenda
                                              addressing additional
                                              issues, such as financing
                                              and internet governance.
                                              Paragraph 111 of the Tunis
                                              Agenda, endorsed by the
                                              General Assembly in
                                              resolution 60/252,
                                              requested the General
                                              Assembly to undertake the
                                              overall review of the
                                              implementation of the
                                              outcomes of WSIS in 2015. 
                                              In response, the General
                                              Assembly in resolution
                                              68/302, decided that the
                                              overall review will be
                                              concluded by a two-day
                                              high-level meeting of the
                                              General Assembly, to be
                                              preceded by an
                                              intergovernmental process
                                              that also takes into
                                              account inputs from all
                                              relevant stakeholders of
                                              WSIS.</p>
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