<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Is there a story or other link confirming that so we can tweet about our community winning a quick victory? Didn't even need to write comments!<br><br>Sent via mobile<div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">__________________________________<br>Kevin S. Bankston</span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Director, Open Technology Institute</span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Co-Director, Cybersecurity Initiative</span></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">New America<br><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://1/1" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1/1">1899 L Street NW, Suite 400</a><br><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://1/1" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1/1">Washington, DC 20036</a><br><a href="mailto:bankston@opentechinstitute.org">bankston@opentechinstitute.org</a><br>Phone: <a href="tel:202-596-3415" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1/3">202-596-3415</a><br>Fax: <a href="tel:202-986-3696" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1/4">202-986-3696</a><br>@kevinbankston</span></div></div></div><div><br>On Sep 22, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Mishi Choudhary <<a href="mailto:mishi@softwarefreedom.org">mishi@softwarefreedom.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Post a public outcry, DEITY has withdrawn this policy.</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 09/21/2015 03:46 PM, Raman Jit Singh Chima wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Happy to add a few brief notes on the background to this if it is helpful:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   - The Indian Govt has had encryption policy discussions ongoing for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   about a decade. Pre-existing telecom sector regulation placed a limit of 40</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   bits on the encryption that could be deployed by ISPs or telcos on their</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   networks, though that arguably applied only to them directly and was</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   unclear as to how it affected third parties</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   - A provision in the Information Technology Act (Section 69) allowed the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   Union Government to issue orders forcing decryption of data in addition to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   allowing for interception requests. When the Information Technology Act was</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   amended in 2008, another provision was added (Section 84A) which allowed</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   the Union Government to specify "modes or methods for encryption" by</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   executive rule-making. The text of the provision said that this was</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   supposed to be for "secure use of the electronic medium and for promotion</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   of e-governance and e-commerce". The internal political context for this</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   included strong political pressure from law enforcement and the security</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   establishment, who raised concerns about not being able to intercept</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   encrypted communications</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   - No rules for the above provision was publicly brought up from 2008</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   until now, though there have been regular internal discussions - mostly</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>   with industry and intergovernmental consultation</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Additionally - perhaps in response to the initial negative reaction in the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>press - the Indian Dept. of Electronics and IT released an addendum document</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://deity.gov.in/sites/upload_files/dit/files/Addendum%20-%20NEP-1_0.pdf">http://deity.gov.in/sites/upload_files/dit/files/Addendum%20-%20NEP-1_0.pdf</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>today. It essentially appears to be trying to suggest that the draft rules</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>could exempt "mass use encryption products" along with SSL/TLS products</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>used for Internet banking (though only those specified by the Reserve Bank</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of India) or for e-Commerce passwords.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sincerely,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Raman.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 22 September 2015 at 01:12, Mishi Choudhary <<a href="mailto:mishi@softwarefreedom.org">mishi@softwarefreedom.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Carol,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks for highlighting this. Its a  draft National Encryption Policy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and public comments are invited by October 16, 2015. Comments are to be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>emailed to Mr A,S.A. Krishnan,  <a href="mailto:akrishnan@deity.gov.in">akrishnan@deity.gov.in</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The key highlights of the policy are :</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. A stipulation that businesses and citizens are to maintain plain text</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(unencrypted) copies of encrypted content for a period of 90 days, to be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>made available to Law Enforcement Agencies (LEAs) when so directed under</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>law.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. Vendors of encryption products are required to register their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>products with the Government as a pre-condition to conducting business</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in India. They are also expected to re-register their products with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>every update. This requirement is not limited to vendors of dedicated</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>encryption products, and seemingly includes even products that use</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>encryption in the course of providing a larger service such as messaging</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>or e-commerce. (Service  Providers located  within  and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>outside  India, using  Encryption  technology  for providing any type of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> services in India must enter  into an agreement with the Government</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for providing such  services in India).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. Encryption   algorithms   and key   sizes shall be prescribed</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>by   the Government through Notifications from time to time.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 09/21/2015 03:33 PM, Carolina Rossini wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi folks, I feel this could be a good topic for a coalition response</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>through the BB platform. Can the folks for India give some context to the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>folks in this list? Let us know if such an action would be helpful.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Carol</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPhone</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Mishi Choudhary <<a href="mailto:mishi@softwarefreedom.org">mishi@softwarefreedom.org</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Worrisome development from India through this encryption policy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://deity.gov.in/sites/upload_files/dit/files/draft%20Encryption%20Policyv1.pdf">http://deity.gov.in/sites/upload_files/dit/files/draft%20Encryption%20Policyv1.pdf</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Warm Regards</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mishi Choudhary, Esq.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Legal Director</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Software Freedom Law Center</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1995 Broadway Floor 17</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>New York, NY-10023</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(tel) 212-461-1912</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(fax) 212-580-0898</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><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e></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Warm Regards</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Mishi Choudhary, Esq.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Legal Director</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Software Freedom Law Center</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1995 Broadway Floor 17</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>New York, NY-10023</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(tel) 212-461-1912</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(fax) 212-580-0898</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.softwarefreedom.org">www.softwarefreedom.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Executive Director</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>SFLC.IN</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>K-9, Second Floor</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Jangpura Extn.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Delhi-110014</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(tel) +91-11-43587126</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(fax) +91-11-24323530</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.sflc.in">www.sflc.in</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>____________________________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>     <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>     <a href="http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits">http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Warm Regards</span><br><span>Mishi Choudhary, Esq.</span><br><span>Legal Director</span><br><span>Software Freedom Law Center</span><br><span>1995 Broadway Floor 17</span><br><span>New York, NY-10023</span><br><span>(tel) 212-461-1912</span><br><span>(fax) 212-580-0898</span><br><span><a href="http://www.softwarefreedom.org">www.softwarefreedom.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Executive Director</span><br><span>SFLC.IN</span><br><span>K-9, Second Floor</span><br><span>Jangpura Extn.</span><br><span>New Delhi-110014</span><br><span>(tel) +91-11-43587126</span><br><span>(fax) +91-11-24323530</span><br><span><a href="http://www.sflc.in">www.sflc.in</a></span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>____________________________________________________________</span><br><span>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:</span><br><span>     <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>.</span><br><span>To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:</span><br><span>     <a href="http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits">http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits</a></span></div></blockquote></body></html>