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    I believe that we would be interested in contributing to such an
    effort as well.<br>
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    Matthew<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/09/2015 17:55, Katitza Rodriguez
      wrote:<br>
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      I believe Cynthia is referring to any piece of advocacy action
      that local groups are planning to do like a joint coalition
      letter. EFF would be interested to support too that if that’s the
      case. and I think its a great idea to coordinate with Dave Kaye on
      that front. 
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        <div class="">Thanks</div>
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                  class="">I don't understand the first part of your
                  question. Can you clarify please?</span><br
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                  class="">On 09/22/2015 12:40 PM, Cynthia Wong wrote:</span><br
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                  those in India: Are there proactive advocacy pieces
                  that the groups on this list can put together to make
                  sure the next draft is less awful?  Perhaps in
                  coordination with David Kaye?<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  HRW would be keen to participate, if that would be
                  helpful.<br class="">
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                  On Behalf Of Kevin Bankston<br class="">
                  Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 9:11 AM<br class="">
                  To: Raman Jit Singh Chima<br class="">
                  Cc: Deirdre Williams; Mishi Choudhary; <a
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                  Subject: Re: [bestbits] Update: Indian Encryption
                  Policy<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  In regard to the continuing/future threat of a revised
                  proposal, I think it’s worth highlighting that the
                  U.S. President’s office is considering several options
                  in regard to encryption policy (based on this leaked
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                  and one of them—option 1—would be to repudiate
                  encryption backdoors, with an eye toward influencing
                  other countries' behavior on this issue.  To the
                  extent we can figure out ways to leverage this example
                  to push the White House in the right direction right
                  now, it may pay healthy dividends later in India and
                  around the world.<br class="">
                  _____________________________________<br class="">
                  Kevin S. Bankston<br class="">
                  Director, New America's Open Technology Institute<br
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                  Co-Director, New America’s Cybersecurity Initiative<br
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                  On Sep 22, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Raman Jit Singh Chima
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                  wrote:<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Those links are confirmed, and the Minister did a
                  formal statement at a press conference on this that
                  the news wires have used for their stories.<br
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                  Do keep in mind though that they plan to try and bring
                  this back - the Minister said they would redraft and
                  then bring it back for public comment. We should
                  celebrate this, but then pivot to focus on why
                  undermining encryption should never be a policy step
                  and what different governments across the world need
                  to focus on - including India itself.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Raman.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  On 22 September 2015 at 20:40, Deirdre Williams <<a
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                  wrote:<br class="">
                  Try<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
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                  On 22 September 2015 at 11:07, Kevin Bankston <<a
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                  wrote:<br class="">
                  Is there a story or other link confirming that so we
                  can tweet about our community winning a quick victory?
                  Didn't even need to write comments!<br class="">
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                  Sent via mobile<br class="">
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                  __________________________________<br class="">
                  Kevin S. Bankston<br class="">
                  Director, Open Technology Institute<br class="">
                  Co-Director, Cybersecurity Initiative<br class="">
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                  On Sep 22, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Mishi Choudhary <<a
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                  wrote:<br class="">
                  Post a public outcry, DEITY has withdrawn this policy.<br
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                  On 09/21/2015 03:46 PM, Raman Jit Singh Chima wrote:<br
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                  Happy to add a few brief notes on the background to
                  this if it is helpful:<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <br class="">
                   - The Indian Govt has had encryption policy
                  discussions ongoing for<br class="">
                   about a decade. Pre-existing telecom sector
                  regulation placed a limit of 40<br class="">
                   bits on the encryption that could be deployed by ISPs
                  or telcos on their<br class="">
                   networks, though that arguably applied only to them
                  directly and was<br class="">
                   unclear as to how it affected third parties<br
                    class="">
                   - A provision in the Information Technology Act
                  (Section 69) allowed the<br class="">
                   Union Government to issue orders forcing decryption
                  of data in addition to<br class="">
                   allowing for interception requests. When the
                  Information Technology Act was<br class="">
                   amended in 2008, another provision was added (Section
                  84A) which allowed<br class="">
                   the Union Government to specify "modes or methods for
                  encryption" by<br class="">
                   executive rule-making. The text of the provision said
                  that this was<br class="">
                   supposed to be for "secure use of the electronic
                  medium and for promotion<br class="">
                   of e-governance and e-commerce". The internal
                  political context for this<br class="">
                   included strong political pressure from law
                  enforcement and the security<br class="">
                   establishment, who raised concerns about not being
                  able to intercept<br class="">
                   encrypted communications<br class="">
                   - No rules for the above provision was publicly
                  brought up from 2008<br class="">
                   until now, though there have been regular internal
                  discussions - mostly<br class="">
                   with industry and intergovernmental consultation<br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Additionally - perhaps in response to the initial
                  negative reaction in the<br class="">
                  press - the Indian Dept. of Electronics and IT
                  released an addendum document<br class="">
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                  today. It essentially appears to be trying to suggest
                  that the draft rules<br class="">
                  could exempt "mass use encryption products" along with
                  SSL/TLS products<br class="">
                  used for Internet banking (though only those specified
                  by the Reserve Bank<br class="">
                  of India) or for e-Commerce passwords.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Sincerely,<br class="">
                  Raman.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  On 22 September 2015 at 01:12, Mishi Choudhary <<a
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                  wrote:<br class="">
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                  Hi Carol,<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Thanks for highlighting this. Its a  draft National
                  Encryption Policy<br class="">
                  and public comments are invited by October 16, 2015.
                  Comments are to be<br class="">
                  emailed to Mr A,S.A. Krishnan,  <a
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                  The key highlights of the policy are :<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  1. A stipulation that businesses and citizens are to
                  maintain plain text<br class="">
                  (unencrypted) copies of encrypted content for a period
                  of 90 days, to be<br class="">
                  made available to Law Enforcement Agencies (LEAs) when
                  so directed under<br class="">
                  law.<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  2. Vendors of encryption products are required to
                  register their<br class="">
                  products with the Government as a pre-condition to
                  conducting business<br class="">
                  in India. They are also expected to re-register their
                  products with<br class="">
                  every update. This requirement is not limited to
                  vendors of dedicated<br class="">
                  encryption products, and seemingly includes even
                  products that use<br class="">
                  encryption in the course of providing a larger service
                  such as messaging<br class="">
                  or e-commerce. (Service  Providers located  within
                   and<br class="">
                  outside  India, using  Encryption  technology  for
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                  services in India must enter  into an agreement with
                  the Government<br class="">
                  for providing such  services in India).<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  3. Encryption   algorithms   and key   sizes shall be
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                  by   the Government through Notifications from time to
                  time.<br class="">
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                  <br class="">
                  On 09/21/2015 03:33 PM, Carolina Rossini wrote:<br
                    class="">
                  Hi folks, I feel this could be a good topic for a
                  coalition response<br class="">
                  through the BB platform. Can the folks for India give
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                  Worrisome development from India through this
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