<div dir="ltr">Try <a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34322118">http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-34322118</a></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 22 September 2015 at 11:07, Kevin Bankston <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bankston@opentechinstitute.org" target="_blank">bankston@opentechinstitute.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Is there a story or other link confirming that so we can tweet about our community winning a quick victory? Didn't even need to write comments!<br><br>Sent via mobile<div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">__________________________________<br>Kevin S. Bankston</span></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Director, Open Technology Institute</span></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Co-Director, Cybersecurity Initiative</span></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">New America<br><a>1899 L Street NW, Suite 400</a><br><a>Washington, DC 20036</a><br><a href="mailto:bankston@opentechinstitute.org" target="_blank">bankston@opentechinstitute.org</a><br>Phone: <a href="tel:202-596-3415" target="_blank">202-596-3415</a><br>Fax: <a href="tel:202-986-3696" target="_blank">202-986-3696</a><br>@kevinbankston</span></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br>On Sep 22, 2015, at 11:03 AM, Mishi Choudhary <<a href="mailto:mishi@softwarefreedom.org" target="_blank">mishi@softwarefreedom.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Post a public outcry, DEITY has withdrawn this policy.</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 09/21/2015 03:46 PM, Raman Jit Singh Chima wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Happy to add a few brief notes on the background to this if it is helpful:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - The Indian Govt has had encryption policy discussions ongoing for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> about a decade. Pre-existing telecom sector regulation placed a limit of 40</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> bits on the encryption that could be deployed by ISPs or telcos on their</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> networks, though that arguably applied only to them directly and was</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> unclear as to how it affected third parties</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - A provision in the Information Technology Act (Section 69) allowed the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Union Government to issue orders forcing decryption of data in addition to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> allowing for interception requests. When the Information Technology Act was</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> amended in 2008, another provision was added (Section 84A) which allowed</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> the Union Government to specify "modes or methods for encryption" by</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> executive rule-making. The text of the provision said that this was</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> supposed to be for "secure use of the electronic medium and for promotion</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> of e-governance and e-commerce". The internal political context for this</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> included strong political pressure from law enforcement and the security</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> establishment, who raised concerns about not being able to intercept</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> encrypted communications</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - No rules for the above provision was publicly brought up from 2008</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> until now, though there have been regular internal discussions - mostly</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> with industry and intergovernmental consultation</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Additionally - perhaps in response to the initial negative reaction in the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>press - the Indian Dept. of Electronics and IT released an addendum document</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://deity.gov.in/sites/upload_files/dit/files/Addendum%20-%20NEP-1_0.pdf" target="_blank">http://deity.gov.in/sites/upload_files/dit/files/Addendum%20-%20NEP-1_0.pdf</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>today. It essentially appears to be trying to suggest that the draft rules</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>could exempt "mass use encryption products" along with SSL/TLS products</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>used for Internet banking (though only those specified by the Reserve Bank</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of India) or for e-Commerce passwords.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sincerely,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Raman.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 22 September 2015 at 01:12, Mishi Choudhary <<a href="mailto:mishi@softwarefreedom.org" target="_blank">mishi@softwarefreedom.org</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Carol,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks for highlighting this. Its a draft National Encryption Policy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and public comments are invited by October 16, 2015. Comments are to be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>emailed to Mr A,S.A. Krishnan, <a href="mailto:akrishnan@deity.gov.in" target="_blank">akrishnan@deity.gov.in</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The key highlights of the policy are :</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. A stipulation that businesses and citizens are to maintain plain text</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(unencrypted) copies of encrypted content for a period of 90 days, to be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>made available to Law Enforcement Agencies (LEAs) when so directed under</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>law.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. Vendors of encryption products are required to register their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>products with the Government as a pre-condition to conducting business</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in India. They are also expected to re-register their products with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>every update. This requirement is not limited to vendors of dedicated</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>encryption products, and seemingly includes even products that use</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>encryption in the course of providing a larger service such as messaging</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>or e-commerce. (Service Providers located within and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>outside India, using Encryption technology for providing any type of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> services in India must enter into an agreement with the Government</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for providing such services in India).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. Encryption algorithms and key sizes shall be prescribed</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>by the Government through Notifications from time to time.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 09/21/2015 03:33 PM, Carolina Rossini wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi folks, I feel this could be a good topic for a coalition response</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>through the BB platform. Can the folks for India give some context to the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>folks in this list? Let us know if such an action would be helpful.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Carol</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPhone</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sep 21, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Mishi Choudhary <<a href="mailto:mishi@softwarefreedom.org" target="_blank">mishi@softwarefreedom.org</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Worrisome development from India through this encryption policy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://deity.gov.in/sites/upload_files/dit/files/draft%20Encryption%20Policyv1.pdf" target="_blank">http://deity.gov.in/sites/upload_files/dit/files/draft%20Encryption%20Policyv1.pdf</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Warm Regards</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 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