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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    I think they intend it to be a bit more thant just a chair's
    statement.  I expect that at least some hope that it rises to the
    level of the NetMundial outcome.<br>
    <br>
    In comparison with the NMI, for all its awkward first steps and its
    suspect origins, it always intended to be a full instantiation of
    multistakeholder participatory democratic processes.  A lot of us
    thought these first steps faltered, but they keep on trying.  In the
    GCCS and its GFCE (Global Forum on Cyber Experise - oh my), I think
    the touch of Civil Society participation was a late afterthought and
    pales by comparison even with NMI.<br>
    <br>
    That being said, perhaps this late relaization will be followed by a
    genuine atempt to reset the course.  I have not seen much evidence
    yet, but as a beleiver in evolutionary processes, as always I I live
    in the hope of organizations ability to evolve toward every greater
    examples of multistakeholder models of participatory democracy.  I
    hear they spoke of multistakeholderism, maybe they will decide to do
    something about becoming more consistent with its participatory
    democratic methods.<br>
    <br>
    And assuming we believe this effort is real and will endure, I
    assume some of do since they spoke at the event, perhaps we need to
    push on  the GCCS/GFCE to amend their ways..<br>
    <br>
    avri<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 18-Apr-15 11:50, David Sullivan
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I did not attend the GCCS, but my impression from
        other international conferences is that a Chairman's Statement,
        no matter how much consultation took place with stakeholders
        before or during the conference, is ultimately a statement by
        the Chair (in this case the Govt of the Netherlands) and no one
        else. It can attempt to convey consensus views, but no one else
        is signing up to the statement or making any commitments around
        it. 
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        <div>So this statement has very different status than the
          NetMundial Outcome document, which was developed through a
          multi-stakeholder process, or for example the Tallinn Agenda
          on freedom online, which was endorsed by the multilateral
          govts in the Freedom Online Coalition. 
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          <div>Please correct me if I am wrong! <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:06 PM,
          Michael Gurstein <span dir="ltr"><<a
              moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com"
              target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks
                    for raising this issue Deidre but I’d like to
                    broaden the discussion a bit and ask what is the
                    actual or presumed “status” of the meeting and of
                    its outcomes. </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
                    fact that it was convened by the Dutch government,
                    that it was the fourth in a series, that many
                    governments attended and that the meeting issued a
                    final statement which is widely noted (and seems to
                    be issued with the expectation that it will have
                    some status more significant than an ordinary trade
                    or sectoral meeting) suggests that the expectation
                    is that the meeting has some sort of quasi-official
                    status.  That it is in fact, meant to be one those
                    increasing number of unofficial/official meetings of
                    the form of the NetMundial; i.e. not quite on the
                    level of the clearly “official” WSIS+10 but having a
                    normative and quasi-official status rather more than
                    say TED talks or an ordinary Internet technical
                    convening.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And
                    clearly the activities of the designated CS
                    interlocutor(s) has been such as to give the
                    appearance of something with some broader on-going
                    significance as for example, by circulating the
                    draft Outcome Document for comment and input.</span><span
                    style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">So
                    I think that we can assume that the GCCS is meant to
                    be one of those increasing stable of
                    multistakeholder global Internet Governance unicorns
                    whose intention is to replace more formal and
                    “democratically constituted” global Internet
                    Governance assemblies.  </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
                    style="color:#1f497d"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Why
                    this matters of course, is because the clear
                    intention is that this conference (and more
                    importantly its’ “Chairman's Statement”) is meant to
                    have a similar status to the NetMundial Outcome
                    document i.e. something that is widely quoted,
                    referred to and meant to have the form of some sort
                    of soft international statement of guiding
                    principles, deriving it’s legitimacy directly from
                    the fact of its multistakeholder origination and
                    authentication through the multistakeholder
                    plenaries etc. of the meeting itself.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
                    question of course is what legitimacy does this
                    conference have on its own terms as a
                    “multistakeholder” process and thus what
                    significance or legitimacy can its outcome statement
                    have beyond being a statement by certain individuals
                    selected on the basis of non-transparent critieria,
                    with no accountability to anyone other than the
                    funders, and thus presumably selected and designed
                    to reinforce and ratify already existing positions
                    as determined by the conference organizers.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
                    process of facilitating Civil Society participation
                    completely lacked transparency and accountability to
                    any agency outside of the organizational and
                    decision making processes of the conference itself
                    presumably under the direct supervision of the
                    sponsoring governmental bodies.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
                    facilitation of CS participation through control
                    over travel funding and the holding of the editorial
                    pen in CS contributions would appear to have been
                    directed by the representative or representatives of
                    organizations which get their primary funding from
                    one or another of the main governmental sponsors of
                    these meetings. </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
                    Advisory Board, presumably selected on the advice of
                    this individual or individuals is notably not
                    broadly representative of CS in the Internet
                    Governance space for example, not including any of
                    those who either individually or organizationally
                    refused agreement to the UNESCO “Connecting the
                    Dots” Outcome Document which deliberately chose to
                    reject a commitment to “democratic governance of the
                    Internet” in favour of a non-defined
                    “multistakeholder governance of the Internet”; nor
                    including any representatives from the Just Net
                    Coalition whose proposal for an <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.internetsocialforum.net/"
                      target="_blank">Internet Social Forum</a> has just
                    received wide acceptance and support in the context
                    of the recently held <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="https://fsm2015.org/en" target="_blank">World
                      Social Forum</a>.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Further
                    there would appear to have been no objection on the
                    part of the CS Advisory Group to the failure of the
                    conference to address the escalating issues of
                    Social and Economic Justice through and by the
                    Internet evidently accepting the <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://gurstein.wordpress.com/2015/04/15/why-im-giving-up-on-the-digital-divide/"
                      target="_blank">bland generalities of a concern
                      for “access” as an adequate substitute</a>. </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Also,
                    there appears from the proposed conference outcome
                    document to have been no discussion on the
                    relationship between “security” and “social
                    justice”. Why for example, is the discussion
                    concerning “cyber security” only framed in military
                    or police enforcement terms rather than as is
                    broadly seen as appropriate in global civil society,
                    recognizing that economic and social security for
                    all provide the only realistic long term solution to
                    the current cyber (and other) security threats. </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">In
                    other contexts ensuring that these issues were
                    included in the discussion would be the natural role
                    for CS participation.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Again
                    we have an example of a purportedly
                    “multistakeholder” process which by its very nature
                    is biased and which lacks any of the formal
                    processes of transparency and accountability out of
                    which the legitimacy of any governance process must
                    be built.</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5.95pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Mike</span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
                      lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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                    lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org"
                      target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
                    [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org"
                      target="_blank">mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>]
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Deirdre Williams<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> April 16, 2015 1:11 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Internet Governance; Nnenna Nwakanma;
                    Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global Journal<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] GCCS Speech</span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:2.5pt"><span
                            style="color:black">Dear Colleagues,</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:2.5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span
                            style="color:black">In my imagination I have
                            created an origin myth for the IGC.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:2.5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span
                            style="color:black">Way back at the
                            beginning I see a group of people who all
                            recognise their differences and their
                            diversity but who, at the same time, all
                            identify themselves as belonging to civil
                            society. I see them recognising the
                            potential weakening effect of those
                            differences to the presentation of a common
                            approach, and therefore the desirability of
                            a “civil society” space for objective
                            discussion and negotiation of the
                            differences and the diversity towards what
                            common position may be possible.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:2.5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span
                            style="color:black">I wasn’t there. Those
                            who were can debunk the myth as necessary.</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:2.5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span
                            style="color:black">Within the context of
                            this imaginary myth:</span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">Last
                          year Nnenna spoke at the Netmundial meeting in
                          Sao Paolo. Many of us were very enthusiastic
                          about that speech. Daniel Pimienta suggested
                          that we might work on distilling it into a set
                          of principles that, as civil society, we could
                          support. But we moved on to other things.</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:2.5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span
                            style="color:black">This morning Nnenna made
                            another speech. </span>Jean-Christophe has
                          stated what he disliked/disapproved
                          of/disagreed with about the speech. <span
                            style="color:black">Other people offered
                            uncritical praise for what she had said. But
                            we should not be “uncritical” with our
                            praise. </span>It would be good to see some
                          constructive discussion of what she had to
                          say.</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:2.5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">Best
                          wishes</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:2.5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">Deirdre</p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:2.5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"> </p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">On 16 April 2015 at
                            07:06, Jean-Christophe NOTHIAS I The Global
                            Journal <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net"
                              target="_blank">jc.nothias@theglobaljournal.net</a>>
                            wrote:</p>
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                                    style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi
                                    Nnenna from the Internet,</span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">“The fundamental cure for
                            poverty is not money but knowledge" Sir
                            William Arthur Lewis, Nobel Prize Economics,
                            1979</p>
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