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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday 04 March 2015 09:52 PM,
Michael Gurstein wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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the Just Net Coalition does represent a rather significant
component of civil society and arguably a numerically rather
larger component than do certain other components such as
those gathered around Best Bits.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">BTW,
since when did Civil Society not support democracy as a
fundamental anchor for any governance process. I would
suggest in fact that it is again arguable that any group
which did not endorse democracy as a fundamental principle
would find itself ostracized and shunned within any
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Like for instance in a women's rights group there are some
red-lines, some things cannot be said, and some cannot be spoken
against. Every political group has some red lines, and civil society
involved with Internet governance must also have some. To me
resisting mention of 'democratic' in an IG document with the claim
that the term carries 'baggage' certainly qualifies as such a
redline.The fact that some 'civil society' persons sided with US
and its allies (who as the key power-holders in the global IG realm
have their obvious reasons) to do so indeed makes it a sad day for
public interest advocacy.... parminder <br>
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lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jeremy Malcolm<br>
<b>Sent:</b> March 4, 2015 7:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jeremy Malcolm<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus -
IGC; Nnenna Nwakanma;
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"><bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] [governance] Remarks at
UNESCO Closing Ceremony of "Connecting the Dots
Conference"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Jeremy Malcolm
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jmalcolm@eff.org">jmalcolm@eff.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You’re right, but you can
nevertheless thank UNESCO for the opportunity to
participate on a multi-stakeholder basis and
acknowledge that the outcome document is a lot
richer than it would otherwise have been because of
this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, please clarify that the Just Net
Coalition does NOT represent all of civil society. This
given that Richard Hill on behalf of the coalition has just
disrupted the meeting with a formal objection to the
document due to its omission to qualify references to
multi-stakeholderism with “democratic” (which he incorrectly
stated was not objected to during the last drafting
session), and its omission to include a reference to
the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural
Rights. Other than his objection, the document was adopted
by the meeting by consensus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Jeremy
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