<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Dear Ian,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px">Just Net Coalition (JNC) has already determined it will not participate, other members are waiting for clarity on our proposal </span></blockquote><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:16px">there are differing opinions within civil society about this</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">If the C</div>ivil Society <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">really like the Civil Society </div>Coordination Group<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline"> to be a Representative around the table, or be involved in the selection of Civil Society representatives, then Just Net Coalition's position could be considered rather rushed. How would NETmundial or any other initiative go by the position of CSCG as representative when there are other groups that want to have their own position?</div></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline"><br></div></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">Also, if there are some disagreements with the NETmundial process, apart from writing to the Secretariat and the Transition council, it might ease matters if you directly reach out to Steve Crocker / Fadi / Harmut and others at CGI to sort out differences, rather than rush to conclude the differences as hard differences. I feel that NETmundial would be receptive enough if there is a single Civil Society opinion.</div></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline"><br></div></font></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline">Sivasubramanian M</div><div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline"></div> </font></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline"></div> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51)"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Ian Peter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Not really Parminder. As you know <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:rgb(51,51,51);display:inline"></div>there are differing opinions within civil
society about this,</div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>and without clarity as regards how an involvement with NMI
would work – information we are seeking – it is not possible for everyone to
make an informed decision. Such matters as whether the NMI would want to
maintain a right of veto over selections suggested by CSCG would not matter to
those who oppose involvement under any circumstances, but would be significant
factors as regards considering involvement for others.</div>
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<div>Ian</div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="parminder@itforchange.net" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:12 PM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] UPDATE ON CIVIL SOCIETY PARTICIPATION IN NET
MUNDIAL INITIATIVE</div></div></div>
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<div>On Tuesday 18 November 2014 04:23 AM, Ian Peter
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<div>UPDATE ON CIVIL SOCIETY PARTICIPATION IN NET MUNDIAL INITIATIVE.</div>
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<div>Please note that Internet Governance Civil Society Coordination Group
(CSCG) participation in the new Net Mundial initiative is still under
consideration. CSCG has written to the NMI Secretariat and Transitional
Council suggesting that it play a co-ordinating role in the selection of civil
society representatives in a coordinated bottom up manner, rather than these
decisions being made by the Transitional Council (which has no civil society
representation). This is still under discussion; however, we do not yet have a
proposal with sufficient clarity for member coalitions to be able to decide on
participation or not. While Just Net Coalition (JNC) has already determined it
will not participate, other members are waiting for clarity on our proposal
for a bottom up and inclusive procedure for determining civil society
representatives before making any final decisions on
participation.</div></span></div></div></blockquote><br>Does this not constitute
an in principle agreement to participate by the concerned CS actors, if NMI guys
agrees to CSCG doing CS nominations, or something close to that... Further, Is
Fadi wrong in taking that impression and making it public... I think you need to
make the facts such more clear and transparent about what is happening within
the CSCG, what decisions and actions it takes and so on... parminder <br><br>
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<div>Our letter to the NMI Secretariat and Transitional Council in no
way signifies that any or all CS organisations have made a final decision on
whether to engage with the NMI in a formal selection process or to participate
in the NMI process.</div>
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