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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can we take it then that those who have signed on to this statement or who have elsewhere indicated a full and unquestioning support for MSism in Internet Governance (including of course countries such as the USA who are actively promoting MSism in all venues) are in agreement with Milton’s definition of Multistakeholderism as </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>governance by “private sector-based MS institutions”? And further that these proponents of MSism have renounced a belief in democracy (as in rule by and for the people) as the foundation of governance in the Internet (and presumably other) governance spaces?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It would be good to know the position of various groupings on this central question of values so that for example, appropriate alliances etc. could be established in full understanding of organizational and individual commitments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net [mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anne Jellema<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> Norbert Bollow<br><b>Cc:</b> bestbits@lists.bestbits.net; JNC Forum<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Time-sensitive: 24 hour sign on period for ITU Plenipot joint recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Norbert<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The pre-IGF BB meeting in Istanbul (report on the BB website) agreed on the creation of three fluid working groups. Carolina's note on the outcomes of this meeting, sent to the Best Bits list on 9 September, outlined these groups and who to contact if you wanted to join. Snippet below:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:47.25pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><b><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>ITU working group:</span></i></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> A group of volunteers (see the list in the BB report) has been formed. If you'd like to join, please contact Anne Jellema <<a href="mailto:anne@webfoundation.org" target="_blank">anne@webfoundation.org</a>> and myself. <o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> About 30 people requested to join the ITU working group, were duly added and introduced themselves to the group; no one who asked was turned down.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The group decided not to open its email list archive. Many of the group members are participating in government delegations, which is a valuable source of information and intelligence that CS needs for effective advocacy (especially in the ITU context where access to documents is highly restricted), but requires that you accept a duty to treat that information with great care. Those on delegations felt that there was some of this information that they could responsibly share with a group of 30 people whose identities, affiliations and reasons for participating in the group they knew, but not with an open mailing list of 370 people. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Second, as mentioned above and also stressed in my note to the list the other day, this was a group of volunteers who prepared a statement and opened it to the wider BB list for endorsement (or not). The statement has not been issued in the name of "civil society" or "Best Bits" but only in the name of the organisations who chose to sign it. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I hope that answers your questions but feel free to follow up.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Best,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Anne<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 22:38:08 +0200<br>Anne Jellema <<a href="mailto:anne@webfoundation.org">anne@webfoundation.org</a>> wrote on the BestBits list:<br><br>> As you know, a fluid working group was formed after the IGF to try to<br>> come up with joint recommendations for the ITU Plenipot.<br><br>May I ask some questions about this?:<br><br>Was this an open process which any interested civil society person would<br>have been accepted to join upon request?<br><br>Are there publicly accessible mailing list archives somewhere?<br><br>Greetings,<br>Norbert<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"'Lucida Grande'","serif"'>Anne Jellema </span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"'Lucida Grande'","serif"'>CEO <span style='color:#B8265C'> </span></span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"'Lucida Grande'","serif";color:black'>+27 061 36 9352 (ZA) </span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"'Lucida Grande'","serif";color:black'>+1 202 684 6885 (</span><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"'Lucida Grande'","serif"'>US)</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"'Lucida Grande'","serif"'>@afjellema </span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande","serif";color:#519032'>World Wide Web Foundation | 1110 Vermont Ave NW, Suite 500, Washington DC, 20005, USA | <a href="http://www.webfoundation.org/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#519032;text-decoration:none'>www.webfoundation.org</span></a> | Twitter: @webfoundation</span></b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>