<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>Good evening </div><div><br></div><div>I think (but am often wrong) we are at one of those pivotal moments; the strength of the IGF is the diverse bodies it throws together. A call for an open-ended mandate for IGF is not guaranteed to find traction at the UNGA but we would kick ourselves had we not tried. </div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Nigel </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, September 3, 2014 11:15 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> "<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>, Anja Kovacs <<a href="mailto:anja@internetdemocracy.in">anja@internetdemocracy.in</a>>, Lee W McKnight <<a href="mailto:lmcknigh@syr.edu">lmcknigh@syr.edu</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>>, George Sadowsky <<a href="mailto:george.sadowsky@gmail.com">george.sadowsky@gmail.com</a>>, Pranesh Prakash <<a href="mailto:pranesh@cis-india.org">pranesh@cis-india.org</a>>, Jeanette Hofmann <<a href="mailto:jeanette@wzb.eu">jeanette@wzb.eu</a>>, Best Bits <<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [bestbits] [governance] Call for making the IGF permanent<br></div><div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
I think this is helpful, and I am sorry that I missed the BestBits meeting and all the discussion. My understanding (and I cc Jeanette who was there and who was taking on the task for this letter, was that discussion of evolution and strengthening was to go
in the other letter....because it was harder to get agreement on that. WE are getting countries to sign on to extension of the mandate, which is quite difficult. We cannot start throwing in qualitative material that requires negotiation.
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Is this not why we have three letter going?<br>
Thanks <br>
Stephanie<br><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2014-09-03, 13:43, Anja Kovacs wrote:<br></div><blockquote cite="mid:CAJqNAHCi_FMkzc54O7PBjz2BcwbtR0wUfTiZfG9_GVzRUAYesg@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Thanks, Lee. That was in fact also what was suggested at the Best Bits meeting.
<div><br></div><div>The unanimous support was not merely for establishing the IGF as a permanent or long-term body, but for establishing it as a permanent or long-term body while reforming and strengthening it, and that is the language that the Best Bits draft statement also
uses at the moment (the cross-stakeholder statement unfortunately does not). Transparency and accountability for me are an integral part of what needs to be strengthened, and I'm happy for that to be spelled out. I have made a suggestion to that effect on
the pad where the BB statement is being drafted.</div><div><br></div><div>I wouldn't normally cross-post a message like this (on a BB statement) to the IGC list, but I thought it is important that since this conversation has now spread out over both lists, people who are only part of the IGC should have the correct background
information as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks and best,</div><div>Anja </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 September 2014 22:27, Lee W McKnight <span dir="ltr">
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lmcknigh@syr.edu" target="_blank">lmcknigh@syr.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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My cent:<br><br>
Split the difference.<br><br>
Everyone agrees/calls for a ten year planning horizon for UN participation in IGF;<br><br>
coupled with a call for greater multistakeholder participation in the -annual - review process for IGF accountability and transparency reasons.<br><br>
Everyone's a winner.<br><br>
Lee<br><br><br>
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To: Civil IGC Society Internet Governance Caucus -; Milton L Mueller<br>
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Subject: Re: [governance] [bestbits] Call for making the IGF permanent<br><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
I agree with Prakesh also.<br><br>
George<br><br><br>
On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Milton L Mueller <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br>
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>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>> I will have to be the one to provide that "almost" to that unanimity.<br>
>> Speaking for myself, I do not support making the IGF a permanent body.<br>
>><br>
>> The IGF has to be relevant and has to deliver results, and we should push for<br>
>> accountability of the IGF. Making it permanent isn't really going to help<br>
>> accountability of the IGF (just as having the IANA contract be renewable has<br>
>> helped keep ICANN more accountable so far, though the analogy is not perfect).<br>
>> I would support making the evaluation process (for renewal of the IGF's term)<br>
>> more participative and transparent and, yes, more "multistakeholder".<br>
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> Agree with Pranash<br>
> --MM<br>
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