<div dir="ltr">Thank you c.a. I deeply agree with you and with your evaluation of the political process.<div>A new statement will be inserted later today at the BB platform that I hope mirrors the sentiment of many of us - who did not feel the statement done by Niels was representative of our understanding of the results of NM.</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi,<br>
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Niels is from Article 19 -- their Brazilian chapter was involved in the campaign to ask for president Rousseff to veto an article, so it would go back to the Chamber of Deputies and would possibly never be approved. The curious thing (showing complete lack of political tactics) is that they wanted Dilma to announce she would veto the article *during NETmundial*.<br>
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Can anyone imagine that Dilma, after the brutal political struggle to get MC approved by the Senate just in time for signing at NETmundial, would instead declare she would veto one article and blow up the tremendous political opportunity to sign a worldwide landmark document of principles?<br>
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Also, Niels should describe more precisely who were signing the declaration.<br>
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Finally, it is wrong to say (as they did) that net neutrality was not included in the NETmundial document. Unless they cannot understand English, this is the paragraph on it:<br>
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"UNIFIED AND UNFRAGMENTED SPACE -- Internet should continue to be a globally coherent, interconnected, stable, unfragmented, scalable and accessible network-of-networks, based on a common set of unique identifiers and that allows data packets/information to flow freely end-to-end regardless of the lawful content."<br>
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Since the term "net neutrality" was causing problems for consensus-building, that was what we (the executive committee) managed to do. It was also recognized that the issue is not simple and merits further discussion, as stated in the Roadmap document. But one cannot say it was not reasonably dealt with in the Principles document.<br>
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Stephanie Perrin saved the [civil society's] day by following up with a very balanced and positive speech.<br>
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frt rgds<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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--c.a.</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
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On 04/30/2014 08:31 AM, Adam Peake wrote:<br>
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On Apr 25, 2014, at 7:24 PM, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<br>
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I haven't endorsed it either for the same reason.<br>
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Would have been nice to know who Niels was speaking for -- gave the impression of civil society broadly. Who asked for the opportunity to speak and who did they say they represented?<br>
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Adam<br>
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Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com<br>
Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek<br>
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On 25 Apr 2014, at 7:20 am, Andrew Puddephatt <<a href="mailto:Andrew@gp-digital.org" target="_blank">Andrew@gp-digital.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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I think this is much too negative and fails to reflect the amount of positive agenda and genuinely good things that came out of the whole process. I can’t support this statement<br>
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Andrew Puddephatt<br>
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Reply-To: Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:Jeremy@Malcolm.id.au" target="_blank">Jeremy@Malcolm.id.au</a>><br>
Date: Friday, 25 April 2014 01:44<br>
To: "<bestbits@lists. net>" <<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>><br>
Subject: [bestbits] Civil society response to NETmundial 2014 outcome text open for endorsement<br>
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The following initial response to the NETmundial 2014 outcome text was agreed in the room at NETmundial by about 25 civil society representatives and was read out in the session by Niels ten Oever from Article 19. If you are in agreement, please endorse and share:<br>
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<a href="http://bestbits.net/netmundial-response" target="_blank">http://bestbits.net/<u></u>netmundial-response</a><br>
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This need not prevent the development of a more substantive civil society response later.<br>
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--<br>
Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com<br>
Internet lawyer, ICT policy advocate, geek<br>
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