<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Very critical point Lorena.<div><br></div><div>I think the brand new <i>Marco civil</i> felt short to localize data from the big digital corps in Brazil - basically to put them under potential Brazilian jurisdiction - but didn't Rousseff said that she wanted Brazil to be able to bring to justice Google, a US company, if Google would infringe the rights of Brazilian citizens, in particular regarding their right to privacy, even though the servers would not be located in Brazil? Extraterritoriality is a critical point.</div><div><br></div><div>JC<br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Optima; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; widows: 2; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; 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Hmm, no word on extraterritoriality there... and since the nation
states have to apply the principles towards their own citizens,
within their own national borders and since national intelligence
agencies goals and infractions affect third parties, the legal hole
remains...<br>
From the enforcement point of view, this is going to be a tough
cookie. It makes more sense (but would take longer) to think about
international standards and limits on cyber-spionage.<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Lorena<br>
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<div>Although I can understand the interest for more
detailed language, and support us trying to get
that, it is already known that States that have
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principles, so such negotiations will fail. A
counter proposal has been released by the Swedish
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<div>To this objective, let me propose seven
principles I believe should be observed.</div>
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<div>1. First, legality.</div>
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<div>Surveillance needs to be based on laws.</div>
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<div>These laws must be adopted in a transparent
manner through a democratic process.</div>
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<div>The implementation of these laws should be
reviewed periodically to ensure that the expansion
of surveillance capabilities due to, for instance,
technological advances is properly debated.</div>
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<div>2. Second, legitimate aim.</div>
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<div>Surveillance must be conducted on the basis of
a legitimate and well-defined aim.</div>
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<div>Surveillance measures may never be carried out
in a discriminatory or discretionary manner and
only by specified state authorities.</div>
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<div>3. Third, necessity and adequacy.</div>
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<div>The law should justify that surveillance is
necessary and adequate to achieve the legitimate
aim.</div>
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<div>4. Fourth, proportionality.</div>
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<div>A sound proportionality judgment must be made,
to carefully assess whether the benefits of
surveillance outweigh its negative consequences.</div>
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<div>5. Fifth, judicial authority.</div>
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<div>Decisions on the use of communications
surveillance should be taken by a competent
authority.</div>
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<div>As a general rule, an independent court should
take such decisions.</div>
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<div>6. Sixth, transparency.</div>
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<div>States should be as transparent as possible
about how they carry out surveillance.</div>
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<div>They should provide information on how the
surveillance legislation works in practice.</div>
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<div>7. Seventh, public oversight of parliamentary
or other credible institutions.</div>
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<div>We need to scrutinise how the laws work, to
create transparency and build trust and
legitimacy.</div>
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<div>Our obligation as governments is to provide
security and to respect human rights - not either
or.</div>
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<div> Patrik</div>
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