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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday 16 April 2014 12:47 PM,
Adam Peake wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">And it is not just these two governments. President Rousseff in her famed UN speech has directly linked the privacy issue to democracy... To quote
"In the absence of the right to privacy, there can be no true freedom of expression and opinion, and therefore no effective democracy. "
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looks to me you have picked up something very important in that quote. How about making a comment on paragraph 2, or perhaps add a preamble to paragraph 14 of principles, or paragraph 4 of roadmap?</pre>
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Adam<br>
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When the EMC or whoever did not find it fit to include the term
'democratic' even after specific and repeated recommendation of more
than one government HLC member, do you really think I should bother
recommending that (although you know we did send a document to you
all before your last EMC meeting where you finalised this draft
where we requested you to include 'democratic') ? This apart from
the fact that there is a whole contribution by IT for Change to the
open process on the issue which you were supposed to have read and
prepared you draft having taken it into account. Please see the
contribution "<a
href="http://content.netmundial.br/contribution/is-certain-kind-of-multistakeholderism-a-post-democratic-ideology-need-to-save-netmundial-outcome-documents-from-crossing-some-sacred-democratic-lines/300"><font
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certain kind of multistakeholderism a post-democratic ideology?
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Need to save NetMundial outcome documents from crossing some
sacred
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You will perhaps appreciate our crystal-gazing skills. Why is the
NetMundial behaving exactly as per our worst fears? The answer; it
is, was always, structural to how this event was systematically
captured by status-quo-ist, and its Brazilian leadership, which is
where most people initially posed their trust, has been long
displaced. <br>
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Maybe, you can explain the compulsions of not putting 'democratic'
in the description of Internet governance mechanisms, when
multistakeholder is mentioned about 500 times.... And please dont
behave as if it simply did not occur to you/EMC, which while being
surprising on its own, is unsustainable as per the above. <br>
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BTW, for the sake of transparency, can we please be informed who
prepared the final draft - the EMC or the meeting board (with its
civil society co-chair <a
href="http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/executive-of-telecom-giant-that-aided-nsa-spying-is-on-india-s-cyber-security-panel/article1-1205483.aspx">who
is really not civil society</a>)<br>
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parminder<br>
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Thanks,
Adam (in my individual capacity)
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<pre wrap="">But strangely, Brazilians seem to have handed over this meeting to the staus quoists... and democracy is simply not a favoured word with them..
Welcome to the brave new post-democratic world... the NetMundial doc as it stands is positioned to become a key milestone, even a trail blazer, towards a post-democratic global governance, from where it will trickle down to national levels. The neoliberal ideology is making really big strides and rapid gains....
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BTW, India in its comments on the document (as per the leaked documents) seem to have also asked for a recognition of the Internet as a global commons... but of course no... what are you talking about!
What are you asking the people of the world to do with this document... To endorse it and celebrate it just becuase in about 500 places it says multi-stakeholder....
parminder
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 05:19 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Carol, it was not "taken out" of the document. It is there, in detail,
please re-read.
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On 04/15/2014 08:10 AM, Carolina wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Pls, mention net neutrality which was taken out of the document put out
for comments yesterday. More later. Should we consolidate all in a pad
to help Nnenna?
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 15, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Marianne Franklin <
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<pre wrap="">Dear all
+1 from me re. Nnenna's role, and +1 from me re. Anriette's points below.
best
MF
On 15/04/2014 19:44, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Congrats Nnenna!
Put on one of your fabulous outfits, and then remind them, that
working inclusively and respectfully with all stakeholder groups,
particularly those that lack power and influence - i.e. civil society
- is very different from putting on a colourful West African outfit
:) It takes hard work, change in behaviour, change in structures and
procedures, consultation, respect, trust, debate, and struggle,
because do not always agree. It also requires a common framework of
principles that defines what the public interest is in internet
governance that can be used to promote and protect this public
interest across the internet governance ecosystem and it is this
framework that we trust the NetMundial can get us closer to.
You could also mention surveillance, with particularly - but not only
- mass surveillance demonstrating how easy it is to destroy trust,
and to deny accountability. And, is there any tougher test for
multi-stakeholder internet governance? I think it would be good to
get the message accross that the IANA transition is not the only
issue that NetMundial should be discussing, but at the same time, it
is a key opportunity to come up with solutions and approaches that
are not simply cosmetic.
Anriette
On 15/04/2014 09:23, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
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jeanette
Am 15.04.14 08:38, schrieb Ian Peter:
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<pre wrap="">Congratulations Nnenna – great choice!
*From:* Nnenna Nwakanma
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nnenna75@gmail.com"><mailto:nnenna75@gmail.com></a>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:35 PM
*To:* Governance
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*Subject:* [bestbits] Nnenna to Keynote at Netmundial - Civil Society
major issues
Dear all,
I got a message this morning from NetMundial Chair, Virgilo,
inviting me
to speak at the Opening Ceremony of Netmundial (meaning I have to pack
one of those African dresses) for some 8 minutes.
I have replied to say "I will be speaking from the Civil Society
perspective, which is my Stakeholder Group".
There is a Web Foundation media team that will help me put my ideas
into
place, but I cannot not request input from here, so that no major
issues
will be overlooked.
I travel Thursday evening thru Friday, so the earliest I can share a
draft/keypoints will be Monday.
Hope we can pull this off well.
All for now
Nnenna
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Dr Marianne Franklin
Professor of Global Media and Politics
Convener: Global Media & Transnational Communications Program
Goldsmiths (University of London)
Department of Media & Communications
New Cross, London SE14 6NW
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