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Agree with Parminder.<br>
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We need to comment on these omissions. Is best strategy for us to
just all comment as individuals, or organisations, or to also try
and do collaborative submissions?<br>
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But I would not blame big business Parminder.<br>
<br>
Texts coming out of intergovernmental processes like the WSIS +10
are also problematic from a public-interest perspective.<br>
<br>
Anriette<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/04/2014 12:08, parminder wrote:<br>
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<font face="Verdana">And yes, I forgot to mention, 'public' has
disappeared from 'open and public standards' which was in the
initial draft......<br>
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I think we need to be discussing the draft netmundial outcome
document that has been put for public comments..<br>
<br>
Can people tell me one good thing about the document... I have
not heard anyone present it.<br>
<br>
This was the event that we invested so much in, looked so much
forward to... Why we have not anything to say about the outcome
document. <br>
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parminder<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 15 April 2014 06:24 PM,
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<font face="Verdana">Carlos,<br>
<br>
Of course you know what net neutrality is - it is there in the
Marco Civil; it is not here in this document...<br>
<br>
And even the half cock term 'neutrality' has been specifically
removed, by those opposed to net neutrality, and you are
trying to convince us that net neutrality is still there...<br>
<br>
Not only net neutrality has been removed, 'free flow of
information' which figured twice in the earlier (leaked) draft
has been removed from both places..<br>
<br>
Plus the mention of 'necessary and proportionate' principle
(s) has been removed..<br>
<br>
Plus need for agreements on restraining cyber weapons have
been removed...<br>
<br>
The part on access for disabled has been weakened...</font><font
face="Verdana"><br>
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The recognition in the previous document of need for
mechanisms to address emerging issues and those which do not
have a existing home has been greatly diluted...<br>
<br>
So, the big business has done a thorough vetting of the doc to
make sure that not a wisp of anything that could even
potentially interfere with their free reign on the global
Internet could pass through...<br>
<br>
And what happened to other suggestions form HLC members who
are to big business or the US gov...<br>
<br>
Argentinian government and Indian government (and in a way
also the European Commission) had asked for the insertion of
the term 'democratic' in different places where the
characteristics of Internet governance were listed.... But,
no, that demand was not accepted...<br>
<br>
There is no place for democracy and democratic in the land of
multistakeholderism, fronting or big business interests, as
the changes in the document clearly show. <br>
<br>
BTW, India in its comments on the document (as per the leaked
documents) seem to have also asked for a recognition of the
Internet as a global commons... but of course no... what are
you talking about!<br>
<br>
What are you asking the people of the world to do with this
document... To endorse it and celebrate it just becuase in
about 500 places it says multi-stakeholder....<br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 15 April 2014 05:19 PM,
Carlos A. Afonso wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Carol, it was not "taken out" of the document. It is there, in detail,
please re-read.
--c.a.
On 04/15/2014 08:10 AM, Carolina wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Pls, mention net neutrality which was taken out of the document put out
for comments yesterday. More later. Should we consolidate all in a pad
to help Nnenna?
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 15, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Marianne Franklin <<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk">m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk</a>
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+1 from me re. Nnenna's role, and +1 from me re. Anriette's points below.
best
MF
On 15/04/2014 19:44, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Congrats Nnenna!
Put on one of your fabulous outfits, and then remind them, that
working inclusively and respectfully with all stakeholder groups,
particularly those that lack power and influence - i.e. civil society
- is very different from putting on a colourful West African outfit
:) It takes hard work, change in behaviour, change in structures and
procedures, consultation, respect, trust, debate, and struggle,
because do not always agree. It also requires a common framework of
principles that defines what the public interest is in internet
governance that can be used to promote and protect this public
interest across the internet governance ecosystem and it is this
framework that we trust the NetMundial can get us closer to.
You could also mention surveillance, with particularly - but not only
- mass surveillance demonstrating how easy it is to destroy trust,
and to deny accountability. And, is there any tougher test for
multi-stakeholder internet governance? I think it would be good to
get the message accross that the IANA transition is not the only
issue that NetMundial should be discussing, but at the same time, it
is a key opportunity to come up with solutions and approaches that
are not simply cosmetic.
Anriette
On 15/04/2014 09:23, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
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jeanette
Am 15.04.14 08:38, schrieb Ian Peter:
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<pre wrap="">Congratulations Nnenna – great choice!
*From:* Nnenna Nwakanma <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nnenna75@gmail.com"><mailto:nnenna75@gmail.com></a>
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:35 PM
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*Subject:* [bestbits] Nnenna to Keynote at Netmundial - Civil Society
major issues
Dear all,
I got a message this morning from NetMundial Chair, Virgilo,
inviting me
to speak at the Opening Ceremony of Netmundial (meaning I have to pack
one of those African dresses) for some 8 minutes.
I have replied to say "I will be speaking from the Civil Society
perspective, which is my Stakeholder Group".
There is a Web Foundation media team that will help me put my ideas
into
place, but I cannot not request input from here, so that no major
issues
will be overlooked.
I travel Thursday evening thru Friday, so the earliest I can share a
draft/keypoints will be Monday.
Hope we can pull this off well.
All for now
Nnenna
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