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<DIV>Agree with Gene. 1net is an experiment we can abandon at any time if it
does not become productive. So no I do not support the sort of statement
suggested below.</DIV>
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<DIV>Which is not to rule out a consensus document of some sort in the future
addressing accountability and transparency issues.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=genekimmelman@gmail.com
href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com">genekimmelman@gmail.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=gurstein@gmail.com
href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</A> ; <A
title=governance@lists.igcaucus.org
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</A> ;
<A title=bestbits@lists.bestbits.net
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [governance] RE: [bestbits] Call for Transparency Process
for 1Net</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none; DISPLAY: inline">With
all due respect, making 1net the focus of concern strikes me as a
distraction from more important substantive issues. We need the Brazil
conference ( not 1net) to be inclusive, open and address civil society
priorities. <BR><BR><BR>-------- Original message --------<BR>From: michael
gurstein <gurstein@gmail.com> <BR>Date: 02/08/2014 10:58 PM (GMT-05:00)
<BR>To: governance@lists.igcaucus.org,bestbits@lists.bestbits.net <BR>Subject:
[bestbits] Call for Transparency Process for 1Net <BR><BR><BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">As
an instance of the kind of Transparency and Accountability that I think, at a
minimum, is necessary to safeguard against the “capture” of multistakeholder
processes can I suggest the following:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Since
roughly 24 hours have elapsed since I sent the below message concerning the need
for full Transparency and Accountability for 1Net, with no comments in
opposition, can we take it that there is a rough consensus in support of this
call?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Such
apparently being the case can it be further suggested that “we” as Civil Society
currently being represented in the 1Net Steering Committee direct “our”
representatives to insist on a full Transparency account from 1Net as per the
below and invite other stakeholder representatives on the 1Net Steering
Committee to join us in this call.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Note,
I will be travelling for the next 12 hours or so and will be unable to respond
to emails.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">M<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> michael gurstein
[mailto:gurstein@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 08, 2014 5:12
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Anne Jellema'<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'Anja Kovacs';
'governance@lists.igcaucus.org'; 'Mike Godwin'; 'genekimmelman@gmail.com';
'jeremy@ciroap.org'; 'bestbits@lists.bestbits.net'; John Curran
(jcurran@istaff.org)<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [bestbits] substantive proposals for
Brazil summit - IG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Good
question Anne and let me give a somewhat lengthy reply to cover your question
and several of the others…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">My
starting proposition is that “we” (let’s for the moment accept that “we” here
are a stand-in for a broad-based and inclusive civil society representation)
insist on, as a minimum measure, full transparency and accountability of all
“multistakeholder” processes in the Internet Governance sphere and in the
absence of this full transparency and accountability it is assumed that the MS
process in question is illegitimate and to be rejected out of hand with the
burden of demonstrating transparency and accountability being on the
advocates/proponents of that MS process.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">By
insisting on this as a minimum we are at least providing the basis for a
scrutiny/challenge of the possibility of capture and while most certainly not
foreclosing on the possibility of capture/subversion some tools for making an
effective challenge/sunlighting of these potentials for capture/subversion
would at least be available.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Someone
asked for a practical/detailed example… (I worked as an auditor for several
years (for the UN and the Canadian Government so forgive me for putting the
below in somewhat of an audit format…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Let’s
take 1Net as a MS space/process for an example….<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if
!supportLists]--><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">1.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><!--[endif]--><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Where
did 1Net come from? Did it arise spontaneously one day from Adiel’s brow
or was there background discussion, review, confirmation? If so who was involved
in those discussions? Is there a trail of any sort linking 1Net to earlier
discussions, authorizations, decision making processes. (Here one wouldn’t
necessarily expect a formal process but an indication of the informal process
and who was involved in that process would provide something of an “audit
trail”.)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if
!supportLists]--><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">2.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><!--[endif]--><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">When
1Net selected certain groupings to act as its surrogate in identifying
candidates for various positions including it’s Steering Committee who
determined which organizations were selected, what criteria were used, what
other organizations were selected and discarded and again what criteria were
used for discarding these? Who were parties to these decisions and on what
basis were these parties selected to be involved in these decisions? What
formal processes for doing this authorization were followed. Is the
documentation concerning this part of the public record? If not why not? (Again
there might not necessarily be a formal process but again “transparency” and
“accountability” would require some form of response to these
questions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if
!supportLists]--><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">3.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><!--[endif]--><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Concerning
the “Summaries” of the discussions presented by 1Net. Who prepared these
summaries? Who paid for these summaries to be prepared? Who developed the terms
of reference guiding these summaries? If contracts were involved who authorized
the contracts and under what budgetary authority? Who supervised the work of
preparing this Summary? Who signed off on the Summary before it was distributed?
Under what authority were those who did the sign-off operating? (Note that the
response by Adiel to the first of these questions which was to side-step and
stonewall i.e. to give no response, would to me as an auditor begin fiercely
ringing bells and I would then begin to look for whatever leverage I had to
insist on an answer. (In this instance there was an expenditure of resources,
certainly time but very likely money so some documentation should be available
and if not that is a red flag in itself.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo2"><!--[if
!supportLists]--><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore">4.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><!--[endif]--><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Concerning
the creation of the “forums” website and overall conceptual and web based
formats and architecture. . Who prepared this format and designed and
developed the web site? Who paid for this to be designed and developed? Who
developed the terms of reference guiding this design? If contracts were involved
who authorized the contracts and under what budgetary authority? Who supervised
the work of preparing this site? Who signed off on the site before it was made
public? Under what authority were those who did the sign-off operating?
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">(Note
that the audit process is one that uses (imposed if necessary) transparency to
ensure accountability. Without making any suggestion concerning the nature
of the 1Net processes or their background and funding the questions that I’ve
posed above are rather basic ones that any auditor for a public authority would
ask in this context.) <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">So
why does this matter?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Given
the potential current and long term significance of the processes with which
these activities and 1Net are engaged achieving this minimum level of
transparency is surely necessary and warranted. And before anyone suggests
that these matters/activities are trivial and that what is important is the
outcomes I would simply point in the direction of this<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><I>The way in which we frame an
issue largely determines how that issue will be understood and acted upon (Dr.
Birjana Scott as quoted on the <A
href="http://www.diplomacy.edu/resources/general/framing-argument">Diplo
website</A>)<o:p></o:p></I></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></I> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">and
the very extensive documentation of this process of controlling an argument (or
discussion) by controlling <A
href="http://www.csun.edu/~rk33883/Framing%20Theory%20Lecture%20Ubertopic.htm">the
framing of that argument</A> by Prof. George Lakoff and others.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">1Net
has been in the business of “framing” the Internet Governance discussion at each
point in the process—its arrival on the scene and its interposing itself as the
space for multistakeholder discussion in the Internet Governance area, its
selection of who it will allow into the discussion and who will be excluded, its
provision of a “summary” of the discussion, and of course its “framing” of the
discussion through the establishment of a set of pre-structured
forums.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">This
process of “framing” of the Internet Governance discussion by 1Net and whoever
is paying for/directing 1Net’s activities has been done with no oversight, no
transparency and no accountability but is now taken as the accepted practice for
civil society (and other?) participation in the Brazil meeting (and
beyond?). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I’m
not at this stage attributing any motives to this “framing” process… We don’t
have enough information to attribute motives or intentions but what we have in
front of us is I believe sufficient to insist on a full accounting and full
transparency at which time a judgment could be made.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
see no reason why the information requested above could not and should not be
made more or less immediately available? If these are “public” processes
operating in the “public interest” as is being indicated, then they should be
expected to be as accountable and transparent as any other public
processes.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">In
the audit biz it is only when information is not made available that the red
flags start going up and the suspicions are aroused.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Mike<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Anne Jellema [<A
href="mailto:anne@webfoundation.org">mailto:anne@webfoundation.org</A>]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 07, 2014 5:29 PM<BR><B>To:</B> michael
gurstein<BR><B>Cc:</B> Anja Kovacs; <A
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</A>;
Mike Godwin; <A
href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com">genekimmelman@gmail.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</A>; <A
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [bestbits] substantive proposals for Brazil summit -
IG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p></o:p> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>A salutary reminder Michael. Personally, I'd have to be the
first to admit charges of naïveté, although neither Andrew nor Anja strike me as
especially tarrable with that brush. Nevertheless it's always useful for
aspirations to be informed by a hard-edged analysis of realpolitik. And vice
versa. So: what's your starting proposition for a defensive strategy? And: what
do you think we should be defending?<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Best<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Anne<BR><BR>On Friday, February 7, 2014, michael gurstein
<<A href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">As
I’m reading the various messages and suggestions concerning Brazil and following
the discussion on this list and others I’m struck by one overwhelming
observation… </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Folks
here seem to be assuming that whatever develops with respect to Internet
Governance (and their own interventions) are taking place in a world of benign
and selfless actors (stakeholders) whose only interest is in the public good and
the well-being of the Internet. </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Thus
proposals for this type of “decentralized” governance structure and that
proposal for the “management of decision making through MSism” all are making
the completely unwarranted and dare I say, naïve and even dangerous assumption
that there are not significant, well-funded, very smart and quite likely
unscrupulous forces looking to insert positions that serve and ensure the
dominance of their own corporate/national/institutional interests into whatever
emerges from whatever process.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">It
really is hard to take any of this discussion very seriously unless there
is an attendant discussion on what measures can/will be taken to ensure that
these forces do not prevail… that these processes are not captured and
subverted… i.e. what are the defensive strategies and institutional mechanisms
that “we” (CS) are advocating as part of whatever package we are
promoting.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Is
no one in these CS discussions taking into consideration the overwhelming
resources of wealth and power that will be impacted by whatever might emerge
from these discussions and the similarly overwhelming temptation (even in some
cases the responsibility) to do <U>whatever it takes</U> to twist the result to
support one’s own narrow (corporate/national/institutional ) interests and what
the significance of this observation has to be for these discussions and their
outputs.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">This
isn’t paranoia or USA or whatever bashing. This is simple common
sense.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Has
no one here heard of Mr. Snowden and what he has been telling
us?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">M</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</A>
[<A
href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Anja Kovacs<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 06, 2014 6:43
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Anne Jellema<BR><B>Cc:</B> Mike Godwin (<A
href="mailto:mgodwin@INTERNEWS.ORG">mgodwin@INTERNEWS.ORG</A>); <A
href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com">genekimmelman@gmail.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</A>; <A
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [bestbits] substantive proposals for Brazil summit -
IG</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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