<div dir="ltr">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>Talking to Joana we reached the conclusion that there may have been some misunderstanding regarding the meaning of a synthesis paper. The synthesis will be just a compilation of all proposals presented to the meeting. It will present all range of opinions about the two agenda items. It will be done by the Secretariat that gives support to the meeting (Mr. Daniel Fink's team).</div>
<div><br></div><div>In the last EMC meeting we mentioned that, in addition to the synthesis document, maybe it would be interesting to have one draft text as input to the meeting. This draft text would be based on the synthesis document but would suggest one way forward for principles and for the discussion about frameworks. Of course, the participants of the meeting would be free to use this document, or discard it, or change it as they deem appropriate. The draft texts would be only a starting point. This was something that EMC mentioned, but no decision was made about it yet. So at this stage we are not certain if the synthesis (compilation) will led to other document or not. As far as I understood, Joana's suggestion was that we do have draft text and that this document is placed under consultation online. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I agreed with that in first message. My point was that, considering that the synthesis will come out on March 7, we should think about the schedule and see if there is time to produce a draft text, place it under consultation and compile the suggestions from the consultation afterwards.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best!</div><div>Marília</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(26,26,26)">Dear all,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(26,26,26);font-family:Arial">The letter was already presented to EMC
and cc to LOG by Adam. We will raise the topic on the next call and keep all informed about feedback on this proposal. The next call of the EMC is on Friday.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(26,26,26);font-family:Arial"><span>Best,</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(26,26,26);font-family:Arial">Marília <span style="font-size:17px"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1a1a1a" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:17px"><br></span></font></p>
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</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:45 AM, Joana Varon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com" target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><br>+1 to Jeremy. <br><br>Also, I really think a draft document (not just a compilation of proposals) will be needed prior the event, so it:<br>
<br>a) will help transparency (meaning, it will be very bad if the
participants get into a room for 2 days, draft something and approve it
without broader consultation); <br><br>b) will help consensus building from March to the end of April (otherwise from the submissions of proposals on March 1st to April 24 the Committees will just become a black box)<br>
<br>c) probably a better proposal<br><br></div>On the issue about who to draft it, I agree with Jeremy that we should use as much tools and channels needed for an online deliberative process to build it. If how to use this tool is still too broad. I suggest EC convene a working group with techies for that, they would have a month to organize it. Yasodara, who built the consultation platform for Marco Civil is at W3C, within CGI.br, It's not impossible. And we can always offer our help for brainstorming. <br>
<br></div>And if any Committee need to facilitate and structure any text, my take is that people will be more comfortable if it's EC, just as it is announced at the first press release. As the chairs of HighLevel are Touré (ITU) and the Brazilian Minister of Communication$ (in my view, not the best duet for internet freedom/multistakeholderism). <br>
<br></div>my two cents<br><br>joana<span><font color="#888888"><br><br><br>-- <br>-- <br><br>Joana Varon Ferraz<br>@joana_varon<br>PGP 0x016B8E73<br><br><br></font></span><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Jeremy Malcolm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 04/02/14 22:02, Marilia Maciel
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">My own feeling about it is that we should either
focus on pushing for on-site deliberative mechanisms that would
facilitate consensus during the Sao Paulo or on pushing for an
online platform. My impression is that the organization of the
meeting would lack experience to identify the best model of
on-site deliberation for this particular meeting and setting. If
we want on-site deliberative mechanisms in place, we would need
to offer assistance with that, and this would consume us. But I
think it would be worthy.
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<div>Regarding the platform, it is not clear to me what is the
expected timeframe for us (how to make a meaningful
consultation fit our schedule) and which document (if any)
should be the base of our consultation. Remember, for
instance, that the synthesis paper that will be produced by
the Secretariat will only be available on March 7. Should the
synthesis be the base of our online debate? In my view,
comments on a synthesis doc are likely to produce just another
syntheses. It is not clear at the present moment that we will
have an actual draft proposal on principles or frameworks
prior to the meeting and, if so, who should produce it.</div>
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Surely there will have to be a synthesis of contributions as the
basis for discussions in Brazil, and either the community will have
to develop it, or the Brazil committees will have to do so; and in
my opinion it would be better to give the community that opportunity
to the extent possible. This points to the need for an online
deliberative process, actively facilitated by the appropriate Brazil
committee/s. The facilitation will be hard enough work in itself,
and involve a degree of judgment as to how to present the inputs in
a useful and neutral way. I'm not understating the difficulty of
the exercise, but surely nobody expected getting tangible outcomes
from the Brazil meeting would be easy...<div><br>
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