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    + 1 to Joana and Jeremy<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/5/2014 7:45 AM, Joana Varon wrote:<br>
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              +1 to Jeremy. <br>
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              Also, I really think a draft document (not just a
              compilation of proposals) will be needed prior the event,
              so it:<br>
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              a) will help transparency (meaning, it will be very bad if
              the participants get into a room for 2 days, draft
              something and approve it without broader consultation);  <br>
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              b) will help consensus building from March to the end of
              April (otherwise from the submissions of proposals on
              March 1st to April 24 the Committees will just become a
              black box)<br>
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              c) probably a better proposal<br>
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            On the issue about who to draft it, I agree with Jeremy that
            we should use as much tools and channels needed for an
            online deliberative process to build it. If how to use this
            tool is still too broad. I suggest EC convene a working
            group with techies for that, they would have a month to
            organize it. Yasodara, who built the consultation platform
            for Marco Civil is at W3C, within CGI.br, It's not
            impossible. And we can always offer our help for
            brainstorming. <br>
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          And if any Committee need to facilitate and structure any
          text, my take is that people will be more comfortable if it's
          EC, just as it is announced at the first press release. As the
          chairs of HighLevel are Touré (ITU) and the Brazilian Minister
          of Communication$ (in my view, not the best duet for internet
          freedom/multistakeholderism). <br>
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        my two cents<br>
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        joana<br>
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        Joana Varon Ferraz<br>
        @joana_varon<br>
        PGP 0x016B8E73<br>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 5:11 AM,
                  Jeremy Malcolm <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                        <div>On 04/02/14 22:02, Marilia Maciel wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">My own feeling about it is that
                            we should either focus on pushing for
                            on-site deliberative mechanisms that would
                            facilitate consensus during the Sao Paulo or
                            on pushing for an online platform. My
                            impression is that the organization of the
                            meeting would lack experience to identify
                            the best model of on-site deliberation for
                            this particular meeting and setting. If we
                            want on-site deliberative mechanisms in
                            place, we would need to offer assistance
                            with that, and this would consume us. But I
                            think it would be worthy.
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                            <div>Regarding the platform, it is not clear
                              to me what is the expected timeframe for
                              us (how to make a meaningful consultation
                              fit our schedule) and which document (if
                              any) should be the base of our
                              consultation. Remember, for instance,
                              that the synthesis paper that will be
                              produced by the Secretariat will only be
                              available on March 7. Should the synthesis
                              be the base of our online debate?  In my
                              view, comments on a synthesis doc are
                              likely to produce just another syntheses.
                              It is not clear at the present moment that
                              we will have an actual draft proposal on
                              principles or frameworks prior to the
                              meeting and, if so, who should produce it.</div>
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                      Surely there will have to be a synthesis of
                      contributions as the basis for discussions in
                      Brazil, and either the community will have to
                      develop it, or the Brazil committees will have to
                      do so; and in my opinion it would be better to
                      give the community that opportunity to the extent
                      possible.  This points to the need for an online
                      deliberative process, actively facilitated by the
                      appropriate Brazil committee/s.  The facilitation
                      will be hard enough work in itself, and involve a
                      degree of judgment as to how to present the inputs
                      in a useful and neutral way.  I'm not understating
                      the difficulty of the exercise, but surely nobody
                      expected getting tangible outcomes from the Brazil
                      meeting would be easy...
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