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Brazil is a unique opportunity, and it will be shame if it goes to waste because civil society focused more on process and consensus than on extracting substantive value from the opportunity Brazil represents.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>—Mike</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>-- </div><div><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);">Mike Godwin</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> | Senior Legal Advisor, Global Internet Policy Project</span><span style="font-size: 16.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;"><a href="mailto:mgodwin@internews.org" target="_blank" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><span style="font-size: 12px; ">mgodwin@internews.org</span></a><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"> | <b>Mobile</b> 415-793-4446</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 16.5pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Skype</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> mnemonic1026</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;"><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Address</span></b><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> 1601 R Street NW, 2nd Floor Washington, DC 20009 USA</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in;"><b><span style="color: rgb(0, 46, 98); ">INTERNEWS</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(23, 54, 93); "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">|</span><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(0, 112, 192); "> </span></b><b><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(13, 92, 171); ">Local Voices. 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Expand or adjust the list as you like, but let's give Brazil a chance to a starting point for progress on our most important policy concerns. Who cares if others disagree? We need to adequately represent civil society. And then the discussions and negotiations can begin. ...<div><br></div><div>The three broad areas Andrew suggests were what many signed on at the Baku best bits meeting</div><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>> <br>Date: 02/04/2014 2:31 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a> <br>Subject: Re: [bestbits] substantive proposals for Brazil summit - IG governance <br> <br><br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/02/14 23:09, Andrew Puddephatt
wrote:<br>
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<div class="WordSection1"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Three
examples might be:<o:p></o:p></span>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Net
neutrality<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Protection
for personal privacy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Affordable
access<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">We
could say that whatever arrangements on governance are
considered that we call on governments and other
stakeholders to guarantee these three objectives both at the
international level and in national policies. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
would have thought we have a fighting chance of getting
endorsement for this in a two day conference</span></p>
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I have my doubts. If we start cherry-picking issues, where will we
stop? The technical community will say "Well if we're including net
neutrality, why not IPv6 transition?" Civil society colleages will
say (and quite rightly) "If privacy, why not freedom of expression?"
etc. Also, within your examples, affordable access falls into a
different category than the other two, having less to do with global
public policy principles.<br>
<br>
I can see the wisdom of the original pronouncement that we wouldn't
be dealing with particular substantive issues, but rather on
cross-cutting principles and mechanisms.<br>
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