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<div class="moz-forward-container">Forwarding to BB lists also bec I
think it is here that Adiel had asked me that I substantiate my
assertions about how there has been considerable back and forth on
1Net's role in Brazil meeting, and that evidently 1Net has been
pushing hard to get a central role.... <br>
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Adiel asked me to substantiate my assertion that 1Net was pushing
for this role.. Well, to be precise, I cannot say 1Net was
pushing, because a mere elist can hardly push in this way... But
then the question is; who was pushing, and why? Clue: whoever was
pushing was powerful enough to get a significant decision of the
LOG reversed in its favour.<br>
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parminder <br>
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<td>Re: [governance] Some thoughts on nomination processes</td>
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<td>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:51:05 +0530</td>
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org,parminder">governance@lists.igcaucus.org,parminder</a>
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>, "Peter H. Hellmonds"
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<td>michael gurstein <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com"><gurstein@gmail.com></a>, Deirdre
Williams <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:williams.deirdre@gmail.com"><williams.deirdre@gmail.com></a>, William Drake
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com"><wjdrake@gmail.com></a></td>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Monday 13 January 2014 04:04 AM,
Peter H. Hellmonds wrote:<br>
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<div>For over twenty years I've been "channel operator" on
various chat channels. I always found my role to be akin to
that of a janitor, someone who serves a community without
demanding much in return. </div>
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<div>There was always one policy I followed when it came to
selecting someone to become fellow operator: "s/he who asks
for it will never get it." <br>
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On this criterion, most of all, 1Net should have been denied the
gatekeeping role to Brazilian meeting that has been bestowed to
it. It not only consistently asked for this role but virtually
snatched it out of what appears to be unwilling hands. <br>
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1Net first made a unilateral announcement that it had this role
(Adiel's email to 1Net list on Nov 18) which is strange since it
is the role giver and not the role taker who usually makes such an
announcement, and evidently the Brazilian organising committee had
said nothing of this kind. <br>
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That the Brazilian organising committee had given 1Net no such
role was evident from the Nov 26th formal announcement of the
Brazil meeting. This fact was confirmed by an email to these lists
on Nov 27 by Carlos, who attended the organising committee
meeting. Carlos was responding to direct question by Anriette who
asked and I quote<br>
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"Does this mean that we no longer need to address our concerns
about civil society participation to 1net but that rather we can
engage<font color="#000000"> constructively with CGI.br? </font>
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I dont know how this situation got fully reversed by end Dec when
1Net suddenly got thrusted into the gatekeeping role. One can only
speculate that a lot of arm twisting and political deal making
would have gone in there. <br>
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But surely, you can hardly say that 1Net was the good boy who
never asked for the role, as a reward for which it was given that
role...<br>
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<div>Why? Simply because those who want the spot don't want it
for the work and service to others, but because it would make
them appear "more powerful", "more respectful", "more
important". Times and again when the policy was not followed,
experience has shown and reconfirmed that deviating from it
leads to bad results. <br>
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Would you now denounce 1Net on this criterion.<br>
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Or does your advice only extend to those who may represent
marginalised groups, with highly under resourced organisational
capacities , and not to the powerful and highly well organised
ones..<br>
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parminder<br>
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<div>Instead, those whom I asked to become fellow 'ops' were
those who worked silently and diligently to create harmony, to
develop sensical common positions, those who had service to
the community at their heart and who would refuse the offer at
first for fear of not being able to fulfill the position of
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<div>Perhaps this example could inform also those in and around
this community in setting and in accepting the selection
criteria and nomination processes. </div>
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<div>Of course, you are perfectly free to completely ignore this
suggestion or to start a "shitstorm" over this. ;-)</div>
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