<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Dear Parminder, <br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Sorry for not clarifing this yesterday, was having hard time to find ur msg again in the deep sea of emails in my inbox. <br><br>
All I can say is that, unfortunately, the Brazilian government has never taken into consideration the role of the liaisons. We were never invited to any single meeting that has been assembled with ICANN and interactions were always about us knocking on everyones doors to try to be informed. On the other hand, this nomination did serve as an incentive for the four/three of us to get together and work to assemble information through different channels and communicate whatever we could grasp to the international community. As Carolina has already explained in a previous email exchange with you. If it was not good enough, be assure, we have been doing our best. <br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">My email to Glaser mentioning to consider 1net steering was because he mentioned that the meeting was with "LOG and representatives from 1net". If that was the scope of the conversation, my natural reaction was to wonder: which 1net representative? If 1net had just passed through a process of electing representatives, why not referring to the elected ones? Basically, I was just working in the scope of possibilities that the LOG has given us with that email. <br>
<br>The capacity of 1net to be a truly multistakeholder is yet to be seen. The steering have just been formed. So, of course, I'm not defending 1net's role, as we still don't know what it is. My intention was to pass this message to LOG: if 1net is meant to be legitimate, or is meant to be the conduit by any form, which is questionable, then, please, refer also to elected representatives of that network. Otherwise, we would be there just to legitimate something else, I role that I'm not comfortable with.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">That's basically it. Sorry if my msg was unclear to you by any chance (I know that, at least for the other liaisons, it would not be taken as any kind of action to exclude then. We cannot be excluded, if we were never included. We are working in the sense that if two ears or one mouth from the three of us in on the room, it is already a win.)<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Looking forward for the committees to be formed so we can stop jumping at people's windoms to collect information or drop suggestions that might not be taken into consideration. So we could focus on what pleasures me the most: research and building collective solutions. <br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Hope it makes it clear to you. I know you are annoyed by many questions, but we are all annoyed and anxious too. Just the reactions are different, I've been trying to keep the positivity and patience, as the challenge LOG is facing is huge and I still trust they have the best of intentions. Maybe I'm naive. <br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">all the best<br><br>joana<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 4:26 AM, parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear Glaser, <br>
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Is it possible that at least those who were elected in the
steering/coordination committee of 1net could also attend
the next planning meetings?<br>
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At least from CS, it has been a demand from some
representatives in the various lists where Adiel's report
was shared that at least representatives from international
civil society should attend such meetings to report back to
it's constituencies. <br>
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As 1net has been pointed as a conduit by the LOG, and we are
now trying to
create some legitimacy for this network by electing it's
representatives for the steering/coordination committee, I
think that at least enabling elected representatives for
1net to attend and report back should be a way forward to
start opening up the planing process while the Br committees
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Joana<br>
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Before you were sent to 1Net by some CS groups (for a task never too
clear to me) you were asked to be CS Liaison to the Brazilians to
ensure that CS has a direct relationship with them and our that
relationship is not mediated. I remember that at Bali your views
were also quite strong on this issue. Now you are slipping in an
acceptance of the 1Net's mediating role as fait accompli, and
telling us that you are trying to contribute to building legitimacy
for 1Net..<br>
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I must admit, i remain thoroughly surprised by whatever is
happening, and in the closed manner that it is happening...<br>
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Hope that we can hear some words of clarification from you and
others...<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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parminder <br>
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<div>IMHO I think that would even help CGI to speed up this
process. <br>
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Center for Technology and Society<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:11 PM,
Hartmut Richard Glaser <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:glaser@cgi.br" target="_blank">glaser@cgi.br</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Dear All,
There will be a face-to-face meeting in Brazil on Friday, January 10th, between the
local organizing group (LOG) and representatives of 1Net to sort out relevant details
related to the Brazil Meeting process, in particular the organization of the meeting's
committees.
<u>This is not a meeting of any of the committees planned for the event's</u><u> </u><u>process,</u> since
they are not yet constituted. We hope that by January 15th the nominations from all
stakeholders will be in place for all committees to start their work.
Thanks for your support.
<font face="AppleGothic">Local Organizing Group/CGI.br</font>
BR Meeting - Global Multistakeholder Meeting
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