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<DIV>Hi Michael,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I don’t think anyone is claiming to be civil society. We are simply
co-ordinating a process involving major coalitions operating in this area (NCSG,
Best Bits, Diplo, APC) working on behalf of the many organisations involved in a
variety of networks to provide balanced representation from civil society. I am
not aware of anyone else who is doing that, are you?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Nor, by the way, am I aware of any process via which your slate of
Community Informatics reps (from one aspect/grouping within civil society) can
effectively be considered if you do not join in with your peers here in this
process. Do you want 1net to make some decision to include CI reps and leave out
more widely supported civil society reps? Firstly, I don’t think they will, and
secondly, if they did, I would object strongly to someone outside of civil
society making these choices instead of those inside. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I would still urge you to join with the rest of us rather than setting up a
divisive path which is not helpful to you or your organisation.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ian Peter </DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=gurstein@gmail.com
href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">michael gurstein</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 07, 2014 2:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=ian.peter@ianpeter.com
href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">'Ian Peter'</A> ; <A
title=carolina.rossini@gmail.com
href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com">'Carolina Rossini'</A> ; <A
title=bestbits@lists.bestbits.net
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</A> ; <A
title=governance@lists.igcaucus.org
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</A>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [governance] RE: [bestbits] Fwd: [discuss] Heads up on
Brazil meeting preparation</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Ian,
I must object to your according to yourself and your grouping the mantle of
“Civil Society”. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Your
group represents certain elements/organizations within Civil Society but there
are many many other organizations and individuals who are not represented and
perhaps don’t wish to be represented by your specific
grouping.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I
would ask in further communications, which in principle are open to all, that
this distinction be recognized and maintained.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">With
best wishes,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net [mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ian Peter<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 07, 2014 3:43
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Carolina Rossini; bestbits@lists.bestbits.net;
governance@lists.igcaucus.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [bestbits] Fwd: [discuss]
Heads up on Brazil meeting preparation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Thanks for posting
that Carolina (have cross-posted to governance list as
well)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I am not sure it will
be possible to complete CS nominations by January 10, but we will try and it is
certainly possible. But I am wondering if anyone would object to our current
Brazilian reps attending these meetings as our temporary reps if we have not
completed by then? Then at least we will have coverage and
involvement.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">I want to say a few
words about the break up of the 12 for HLC as well as I have been trying to get
further information on this.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">In an IGF MAG
situation, the breakup would be a simple 4/4/4 – with technical and academic
combined. However 1net has for its own committee given a separate and
equally weighted representation to technical and academic – so its co ordination
group is 5/5/5/5.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">At this stage CS has
been asked to prepare 4 names for HLC. That I think pre-supposes 4 business, 4
civil society, and 2 academic and 2 technical. But I doubt whether technical
would be happy with this. Thus the part of Adiel’s message that suggests the
local group might have to consider further.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">So we may end up with
3/3/3/3. That I think would get broad approval. But it’s important to know, and
for CS to decide the 3, not have 1net eliminate one name. Or in any way be the
final arbiter of which civil society names are included and which are not. That
is our business, not theirs.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">But I think what would
be entirely unacceptable would be something like 4 business, 3 civil society, 3
technical, 2 academic. I mention this because a few LOG members might be
reading here. I am fairly sure that civil society would be very opposed to any
situation where the weighting of the business community was greater than that of
civil society. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Ian
Peter<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=carolina.rossini@gmail.com
href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com">Carolina Rossini</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">
Tuesday, January 07, 2014 6:55 AM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <A
title=bestbits@lists.bestbits.net
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: whitesmoke"><B><SPAN
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[bestbits] Fwd: [discuss] Heads up on Brazil meeting
preparation<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">---------- Forwarded
message ----------<BR>From: <B>Adiel Akplogan</B> <<A
href="mailto:adiel@afrinic.net">adiel@afrinic.net</A>><BR>Date: Mon, Jan 6,
2014 at 2:03 PM<BR>Subject: [discuss] Heads up on Brazil meeting
preparation<BR>To: "<A href="mailto:discuss@1net.org">discuss@1net.org</A>"
<<A href="mailto:discuss@1net.org">discuss@1net.org</A>><BR><BR><BR>Hello
all,<BR><BR>I have been invited (for /1Net) to attend a status update meeting
between the representatives of the Brazil meeting's LOG and ICANN last Friday.
Here are some key points discussed during the meeting:<BR><BR>- Hosting of the
meeting: the government of Brazil is leading this aspect and is in bilateral
discussion with few other countries so for the event to be hosted not only by
Brazil but jointly with these countries. More update on this is normally
expected this week or next.<BR><BR>- Chairing of the meeting: It was discussed
and agreed that the multistakeholder aspect of the meeting should be properly
reflected in it chairmanship as well. So it wont be only ICANN and Brazil who
will chair but at least two other people will be proposed to join as co-chair of
the meeting.<BR><BR>- Stakeholder groups: The issue of confusion in the the
grouping of stakeholders has been discussed and it is expected that a
clarification on this comes from the LOG. But the suggestion is to keep the
break down as originally announced (4 groups: CS, Business, Technical and
Academia) so not to induce further delay in the nominations.<BR><BR>- Because
time is against us, the LOG has expressed its hope to have all the committees
launched on January 10th. Which will have a direct implication of not having all
stakeholders' representatives appointed by then. It was suggested to go with
what is ready by the 10th, and start some preliminaries discussions while the
rest join by mid January.<BR><BR>- The LOG has clearly expressed their
preference to have /1net as their only interface for dealing with the rest of
the community in general. Obviously to avoid having to deal directly with each
and everyone separately.<BR><BR>- A meeting is planned in Brazil on the 10th to
kick-off the committees and<BR>begin addressing key organizing issues in order
to provide some further specific information related to the whole planning.
Arrangement is being made to have remote participation to that meeting for
already appointed committee members who will not be able to travel to in Sao
Paulo.<BR><BR>That is all I have for now.<BR><BR>Thanks.<BR></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #888888"><BR><SPAN
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