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<DIV>Thanks everyone for comments so far and some helpful suggestions.</DIV>
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<DIV>Parminder,</DIV>
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<DIV>the initial suggestions and approaches included</DIV>
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<DIV>IRP Coalition</DIV>
<DIV>Privacy International</DIV>
<DIV>Community Informatics</DIV>
<DIV>ISOC (suggested, not an approach)</DIV>
<DIV>Civicus (suggested, not an approach)</DIV>
<DIV>Giganet (suggested, not an approach)</DIV>
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<DIV>I might have missed some, but I hope that helps. It is quite likely
individual members of the group have been approached and I am unaware of it. But
really what we are looking at is the potential for a substantial number of
additional approaches, particularly if we start to expand, and a fair way to
treat both current and future approaches. We can certainly think of a lot more
organisations (present here and not present) who could approach us in time with
valid claims, so planning ahead and getting some sensible ground rules and
approaches in place is prompting out thoughts.</DIV>
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<DIV>Ian</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=parminder@itforchange.net
href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 30, 2013 10:37 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [governance] Re: [bestbits] Input needed - criteria for CS
Coordination Group</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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face=Verdana>BTW, Ian, I had asked you earlier, how many and which networks have
applied to be inside the committee, so that we can judge the nature and extent
of the problem you are trying to deal with.. I understand that should be public
information.<BR><BR>parminder<BR><BR></FONT>
<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On Monday 30 December 2013 10:35 AM, Ian Peter
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Sorry to initiate a process discussion but I
think it is important we move on on this particular issue.</FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I’m starting this discussion to get wider input into
how civil society people think it would be appropriate to expand the current
co ordination group. To date, this debate has largely been about people
thinking they should be included rather than any formal criteria to ensure
that the group is representative while still staying at a reasonable
size.</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The group came into existence out of a need for civil
society groups to work together to nominate representatives for various
forums; originally for 1net and Brazil events, but certainly with thoughts of
IGF MAG as well in the future. <FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Currently
included (in no particular order) are the Association for Progressive
Communications (APC), Diplo Foundation, Best Bits, the Non-Commercial
Stakeholder Group of ICANN (NCSG), and (pending new coordinator elections) the
Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (IGC).</FONT></FONT><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Remember, these are criteria for a co-ordination group
concerned with internet governance matters. Optimal membership levels may be
about 9, I think, but certainly well less than 20. </FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">So how do we choose?</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Criteria discussed so far include:</FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 10pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 13pt"> </P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 5pt 36pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-language: en-au; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">1.</FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Is a coalition which is globally representative - all
regions covered?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoListParagraph
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style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-language: en-au"><SPAN
style="mso-list: ignore"><FONT style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">2.</FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: ; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt">
</FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Is it non-commercial and public interest oriented (as
opposed to business)?</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 18pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"><BR><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">3. Would it more properly fit under technical
community, academic, business or government in its
categorization?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"><BR><BR
style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR
style="mso-special-character: line-break"></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">4. Is a large part of this coalition's members
already covered by one of the existing members?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"><BR>5.
The internal governance of the coalition is adequately transparent and
accountable to its members. </SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au">Other
suggestions have been discussed from time to time and I invite others to make
up for any omissions here.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: en-au">An
additional criteria that might be useful would be a reference to having a
substantial current involvement in and knowledge of internet governance
debates. That however might not be acceptable to all – but for me, the
criteria as they stand would be open to approaches from YWCA, Medicin sans
Frontieres, Pirate Parties International, </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Red Cross, Amnesty International, CONGO, Creative
Commons, International Commission of Jurists,etc. All good groups, and it
would be great to see them involved here, but the question is whether the
presence of all of them would be useful for a small working co-ordination
group on matters specific to internet governance. This along with other
suggestions should be discussed.</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Interested in any thoughts relevant to refining this
into a workable set of criteria for expanding a small co-ordination group, the
members of which will be different coalitions of civil society organisations
who will want to maintain their independence while working together. One
thought that has been raised is to look at rotation of members, or perhaps a
combination of permanent and rotating members.</FONT></SPAN></P><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times
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style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><BR><BR><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri"><FONT
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">So I am just opening this up for conversation to see
what people think. Please this is a discussion about criteria, not about
individual groups and their cases to be involved. </FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri"></SPAN> </P>
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style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; LINE-HEIGHT: normal"><SPAN
style="COLOR: ; mso-ascii-font-family: calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: calibri">Ian
Peter</SPAN></P>
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