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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Sunday 29 December 2013 12:46 AM,
Ian Peter wrote:<br>
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<div>I think it would be good to find out from our Brazilian
representatives why this change happened before framing any
reaction. There may be other dimensions we are unaware of.</div>
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Yes, I agree. But also, we should not be placated by any kind of
superficial justification thrown our way ... We are supposed to
representing 'the outsider' majority in these spaces, and need to
stand up for our convictions... As is already evident, too many take
IG civil society for granted, which is the reason this thing
happened in the first place..<br>
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I really hope that sooner or later we will hear from our Brazilian
Liaisons, among others. <br>
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parminder <br>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 29, 2013 4:53 AM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Re: [discuss]
[governance] Report from the BR meeting local
organizing group - Dec 2013</div>
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the other hand, I</font> also agree with Bill that this
may be too important a matter to be decided just by the
leadership of various CS groups.<br>
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I propose that a vote be taken among membership of different
groups here whether CS will like to deal directly with
Brazilian hosts in the matter of participating in the Brazil
meeting or go through the 1Net..<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 28 December 2013
11:01 PM, parminder wrote:<br>
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10:52 PM, parminder wrote:<br>
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interesting congruence of views that is emerging..<br>
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Can we hope that that 'responsibility holders' among
us - various committees, their heads, cocordinators of
networks, our appointed Liaisons, etc come out with
their views and stand on this issue..... <br>
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<font face="Verdana">and yes, of course those selected
through various processes for 1Net committees .... <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 28 December
2013 10:40 PM, Louis Pouzin (well) wrote:<br>
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10:28 AM, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>Thanks Parminder, glad we are able to
agree on this.
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<div>FWIW my view remains that if the
networks involved refuse to work through
the 1net mechanism to channel
nominations to the Brazilians, they
should not have taken positions on the
1net coordination committee, which to
date has one identifiable function—
channeling nominations to the
Brazilians. If the view is that
because its launch and initial expiation
were not handled well 1net therefore has
no legitimacy as a channel, then the
networks shouldn’t lend it legitimacy
and should resign from its coordination
committee. I don’t share that view of
1net, but if someone else does they
should behave according to their
principles rather than trying to have it
both ways. </div>
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<div><b>+ 2<br>
</b>Louis <br>
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<div>Best</div>
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<div>Bill</div>
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