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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>As this has implications for the larger IG CS community I think I should copy this to you folks as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 21, 2013 7:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> Adiel Akplogan<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Avri Doria'; discuss@1net.org; 'John Curran'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [discuss] /1net Steering/Coordination Commitee<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>As a matter of fact a number of IG CS people are already part of various aspects of the CI network, and we of course, are pleased at their presence and participation. However, that doesn't mean that the interests and concerns as now formalized in the consensus <a href="http://cirn.wikispaces.com/An+Internet+for+the+Common+Good+-+Engagement%2C+Empowerment%2C+and+Justice+for+All">CI Declaration</a>, are in any way being transmitted through them to the larger IG CS community although we would be delighted if they were.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Following on from Milton's observation concerning the imbalance in the representation from the business community I would propose to Inet that there are two groupings within CS. One that articulates the interests and concerns of those with a primary vocation in the area of free expression, human rights and related matters, and a second which articulates the interests and concerns of those with a primary vocation in the area of "Internet Justice" as for example identified in the CI Declaration.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>That being the case a second “nominating committee” in the Internet Justice area would be created to nominate representation in the various forums emerging out of the Brazil conference and elsewhere. Off the top I would see including in this nominating committee those such as Ann-Kristin Hakansson of the Indigenous ICT Task Force, Ahmed (Smiley) Ismael of Siyafunda (the largest network of independent telecenters in Southern Africa), Martin Wolske of the Center for Digital Inclusion, University of Illinois who is using Community Informatics to work with inner city youth in Chicago, among others.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I look forward to a positive response to this proposal at which time we would work diligently to constitute this NomCom and provide appropriate nominees for CS representation as well as Academic representation. The issue of whether we would seek to nominate representation for the technical positions from among technical actors active in the CI/Internet Justice community will require further discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: John Curran [<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net">mailto:jcurran@arin.net</a>] <br>Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:41 AM<br>To: michael gurstein<br>Cc: Avri Doria; <a href="mailto:discuss@1net.org">discuss@1net.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [discuss] /1net Steering/Coordination Commitee<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>On Dec 20, 2013, at 8:58 PM, michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>gurstein@gmail.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Well, I guess these things are in the eye of the beholder although I <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> agree about the individuals selected.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> ...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> When I came forward to suggest that these voices should be provided an <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> opportunity through the CI network (which as you know consists of some <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> 1500 researchers, practitioners, grassroots activists and others who <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> of course are directly serving a base of communities and individuals <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> in all parts of the world) to be included in these discussions I was <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> rebuffed--not "miffed"--rebuffed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> We are, as anyone can observe entering into a crucial round of <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> meetings/discussions/even decision points concerning the future of the <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Internet and thus, I believe ultimately the future shape and even <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> content of human society as a whole. These are not trivial matters.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> To not insist that the range of additional voices to whom community <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> informatics is pointing (unfortunately in the absence of other and <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> more powerful voices) is I believe to act irresponsibly and <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> unconscionably in relation to those people and to all of those whose <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> voices are not being given an opportunity to be heard in these forums.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Given the importance of this matter, why don't you invite one of chosen CS individuals to participate in the CI network? It should not be that difficult for someone to bring issues up and seek insights from the CI community, and that is no different than what these folks will likely be doing when coalescing input from other communities. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>/John<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Disclaimer: My views alone.=<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>