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Global Change.</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; font-size: 12pt; margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><a href="http://www.internews.org/" style="color: purple; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; ">www.internews.org</span></a><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"> | </span><a href="http://www.twitter.com/internews" style="color: purple; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; ">@internews</span></a><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"> | </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/internews" style="color: purple; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; "><span style="font-size: 9pt; ">facebook.com/internews</span></a></p></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Anja Kovacs <<a href="mailto:anja@internetdemocracy.in">anja@internetdemocracy.in</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday, December 10, 2013 at 11:38 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Gene Kimmelman <<a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Mike Godwin <<a href="mailto:mgodwin@internews.org">mgodwin@internews.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:mishi@softwarefreedom.org">mishi@softwarefreedom.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:mishi@softwarefreedom.org">mishi@softwarefreedom.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [bestbits] Reform surveillance<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div>This might also be of interest in the framework of this discussion, as another initiative to push for reforms:<br><br></div>World's leading authors say state surveillance of personal data is theft, and demand a digital bill of rights, <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/10/surveillance-theft-worlds-leading-authors?CMP=twt_gu">http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/10/surveillance-theft-worlds-leading-authors?CMP=twt_gu</a> <br><br></div>Best,<br>Anja<br><div><br><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></span></body></html>