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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 05 December 2013 01:59 PM,
      Joana Varon wrote:<br>
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        <div>Dear Parminder and all, I guess these important questions
          are the ones repeatedly echoed  in all our minds right now.<br>
          <br>
          But maybe the steering committee (or the coordination group,
          which I also think is a more appropriate nomenclature) is
          meant exactly to address this questions and finally formulate
          the answers, taking into account what has been debated in the
          list? <br>
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    Thanks Joana<br>
    <br>
    Since they have asked us to provide members for the committee, would
    they not give us a short description of what the committee once
    formulated is supposed to do... All this does not look quite
    transparent to me, and a kind of taking civil society for granted.
    That if we are asked for nominees we will just scramble  and obey
    (as kind of happened in the case of ICANN's HLL panel where we
    scrambled even when we were not asked for nominees).<br>
    <br>
    We should not be taken for granted, and if they ask for nominees we
    can ask what is this for, or anything else we want to ask... And if
    they do not care to respond (just a hypothetical scenario) neither
    need we care to respond to their request for nominees. As civil
    society group we do contribute to their 'weight' and legitimacy.
    Also we too have backward responsibility. Civil society may need to
    work with more gravitas . <br>
    <br>
    parminder <br>
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        <div> These single, important, but very early stage issues have
          been going on since Bali with a lot of misunderstandings and a
          bit of mess, and should be addressed quickly. Also, I guess
          that, being able to see how the steering is composed will help
          to build trust, or not, in the future of 1net. <br>
          <br>
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        <div>Having said that, I would be happy to try my best there, if
          nominated. But also, please, have in mind that ultimately I
          think I would be more useful to ur community if I'm able to
          work close to the Brazilian government being part of either
          one of the 2 committees among the 4 that are still to be
          populated (the other 2 are government only and logistics).
          Something to consider if who is pointed for 1net should not be
          in the Brazilian committees. Nevertheless, to add extra
          complication, I'm pretty sure that for this committees
          international CS representatives will have preference over
          Brazilians, as the CS seats for Brazilians shall be occupied
          by CGI.br folks. <br>
          <br>
          my two cents. ;)</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM,
          parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span>
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              <font face="Verdana">Does anyone have any idea what  the
                plans of 1net</font><font face="Verdana"> are</font><font
                face="Verdana">? What are its objectives and possible
                outcomes?</font><br>
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              I welcome a space for a dialogue outside and across
              respective civil society and technical community spaces .
              It could be very useful. But is there any plan beyond
              this? I mean, one really does not need a multistakeholder
              steering committee to conduct an online dialogue. For
              anyone to decide on wanting or not to join the committee,
              or even to consider whom one should nominate,  it will be
              useful to have some primary idea of what would the
              committee and 1net itself do..<span class="HOEnZb"><font
                  color="#888888"><br>
                  <br>
                  parminder <br>
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                  <div>On Wednesday 04 December 2013 07:25 PM, Jeremy
                    Malcolm wrote:<br>
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                    <div>Dear all,</div>
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                    <div>I'm sure you're aware by now of the 1net
                      dialogue, which the technical community
                      organisations initiated around the time of the
                      Bali IGF meeting, and invited the private sector
                      and civil society to join.  The vision for the
                      1net dialogue is rather poorly defined, so it
                      remains unclear how important or influential 1net
                      may become.  I'm not going to attempt to summarise
                      the competing visions for 1net here.  I can only
                      suggest that if you haven't already, you read the
                      email archives of its mailing list to learn more: <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="https://nro.net/mailman/listinfo/i-coordination"
                        target="_blank">https://nro.net/mailman/listinfo/i-coordination</a>.</div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>There has been a somewhat loose invitation from
                      the 1net coordinators for the other stakeholder
                      groups to each nominate five members for the 1net
                      steering committee, but a deadline for that has
                      only just been set, and (unless extended) it is
                      very soon - <b>next Monday 9 December</b>.  So to
                      do this, we are falling back to the same joint
                      committee of representatives from civil society
                      networks that recently nominated civil society
                      members to join the High Level Panel convened by
                      ICANN to provide input into the Brazil meeting.</div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>Each of those networks is now urgently reaching
                      out to their constituents, as I'm doing so now, to
                      ask for expressions of interest in serving on the
                      1net steering committee.  On the part of the Best
                      Bits participants, in Bali we already nominated
                      the same four Brazilian representatives (Carolina,
                      Joana, Carlos and Laura) to be on that committee.
                       As far as I know, they are willing to continue,
                      but have expressed the wish that someone else also
                      join, who has a closer association with the ICANN
                      community.  That being the case, we need to put
                      forward one name.</div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>If you would like to be put yourself forward to
                      join the 1net steering committee, or would like to
                      nominate someone else, then this thread is for
                      that purpose.  The thread can also be used to
                      discuss the criteria that you think should be used
                      by the joint committee in considering the nominees
                      to put forward.  If you disagree that the four
                      Brazilian representatives should be amongst the
                      five civil society representatives on the 1net
                      steering committee, then you can put forward that
                      view too.</div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>In closing, I do need to acknowledge that the
                      joint committee is still an imperfect vehicle for
                      nominating civil society representatives to the
                      1net steering committee, because it doesn't yet
                      have an elaborate procedure in place for making
                      the selection - and I know how sensitive some of
                      us are about that sort of thing.  All I can say
                      about that is that in parallel to this call for
                      expressions of interest, the committee is also
                      considering how procedures it could put in place
                      that would satisfy their constituents'
                      expectations for a transparent and accountable
                      process.  Meanwhile, that remains a work in
                      progress.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>I will forward the views put forward in this
                      thread to the other members of the joint committee
                      (who are currently from APC, Diplo, the IGC and
                      the NCSG - Michael Gurstein's interest in joining
                      has also been noted and is under discussion).  We
                      will then discuss the nominations within the
                      committee, and attempt to come back to you all
                      with a suggestion that will hopefully be generally
                      acceptable.  If you have any process-related
                      queries, it is probably appropriate that you
                      direct those to Ian Peter who is the independent
                      chair of the joint committee for now.</div>
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