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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 05 December 2013 01:59 PM,
Joana Varon wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear Parminder and all, I guess these important questions
are the ones repeatedly echoed in all our minds right now.<br>
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But maybe the steering committee (or the coordination group,
which I also think is a more appropriate nomenclature) is
meant exactly to address this questions and finally formulate
the answers, taking into account what has been debated in the
list? <br>
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Thanks Joana<br>
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Since they have asked us to provide members for the committee, would
they not give us a short description of what the committee once
formulated is supposed to do... All this does not look quite
transparent to me, and a kind of taking civil society for granted.
That if we are asked for nominees we will just scramble and obey
(as kind of happened in the case of ICANN's HLL panel where we
scrambled even when we were not asked for nominees).<br>
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We should not be taken for granted, and if they ask for nominees we
can ask what is this for, or anything else we want to ask... And if
they do not care to respond (just a hypothetical scenario) neither
need we care to respond to their request for nominees. As civil
society group we do contribute to their 'weight' and legitimacy.
Also we too have backward responsibility. Civil society may need to
work with more gravitas . <br>
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parminder <br>
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<div> These single, important, but very early stage issues have
been going on since Bali with a lot of misunderstandings and a
bit of mess, and should be addressed quickly. Also, I guess
that, being able to see how the steering is composed will help
to build trust, or not, in the future of 1net. <br>
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<div>Having said that, I would be happy to try my best there, if
nominated. But also, please, have in mind that ultimately I
think I would be more useful to ur community if I'm able to
work close to the Brazilian government being part of either
one of the 2 committees among the 4 that are still to be
populated (the other 2 are government only and logistics).
Something to consider if who is pointed for 1net should not be
in the Brazilian committees. Nevertheless, to add extra
complication, I'm pretty sure that for this committees
international CS representatives will have preference over
Brazilians, as the CS seats for Brazilians shall be occupied
by CGI.br folks. <br>
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my two cents. ;)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM,
parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<font face="Verdana">Does anyone have any idea what the
plans of 1net</font><font face="Verdana"> are</font><font
face="Verdana">? What are its objectives and possible
outcomes?</font><br>
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I welcome a space for a dialogue outside and across
respective civil society and technical community spaces .
It could be very useful. But is there any plan beyond
this? I mean, one really does not need a multistakeholder
steering committee to conduct an online dialogue. For
anyone to decide on wanting or not to join the committee,
or even to consider whom one should nominate, it will be
useful to have some primary idea of what would the
committee and 1net itself do..<span class="HOEnZb"><font
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parminder <br>
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<div>On Wednesday 04 December 2013 07:25 PM, Jeremy
Malcolm wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear all,</div>
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<div>I'm sure you're aware by now of the 1net
dialogue, which the technical community
organisations initiated around the time of the
Bali IGF meeting, and invited the private sector
and civil society to join. The vision for the
1net dialogue is rather poorly defined, so it
remains unclear how important or influential 1net
may become. I'm not going to attempt to summarise
the competing visions for 1net here. I can only
suggest that if you haven't already, you read the
email archives of its mailing list to learn more: <a
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href="https://nro.net/mailman/listinfo/i-coordination"
target="_blank">https://nro.net/mailman/listinfo/i-coordination</a>.</div>
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<div>There has been a somewhat loose invitation from
the 1net coordinators for the other stakeholder
groups to each nominate five members for the 1net
steering committee, but a deadline for that has
only just been set, and (unless extended) it is
very soon - <b>next Monday 9 December</b>. So to
do this, we are falling back to the same joint
committee of representatives from civil society
networks that recently nominated civil society
members to join the High Level Panel convened by
ICANN to provide input into the Brazil meeting.</div>
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<div>Each of those networks is now urgently reaching
out to their constituents, as I'm doing so now, to
ask for expressions of interest in serving on the
1net steering committee. On the part of the Best
Bits participants, in Bali we already nominated
the same four Brazilian representatives (Carolina,
Joana, Carlos and Laura) to be on that committee.
As far as I know, they are willing to continue,
but have expressed the wish that someone else also
join, who has a closer association with the ICANN
community. That being the case, we need to put
forward one name.</div>
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<div>If you would like to be put yourself forward to
join the 1net steering committee, or would like to
nominate someone else, then this thread is for
that purpose. The thread can also be used to
discuss the criteria that you think should be used
by the joint committee in considering the nominees
to put forward. If you disagree that the four
Brazilian representatives should be amongst the
five civil society representatives on the 1net
steering committee, then you can put forward that
view too.</div>
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<div>In closing, I do need to acknowledge that the
joint committee is still an imperfect vehicle for
nominating civil society representatives to the
1net steering committee, because it doesn't yet
have an elaborate procedure in place for making
the selection - and I know how sensitive some of
us are about that sort of thing. All I can say
about that is that in parallel to this call for
expressions of interest, the committee is also
considering how procedures it could put in place
that would satisfy their constituents'
expectations for a transparent and accountable
process. Meanwhile, that remains a work in
progress.</div>
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<div>I will forward the views put forward in this
thread to the other members of the joint committee
(who are currently from APC, Diplo, the IGC and
the NCSG - Michael Gurstein's interest in joining
has also been noted and is under discussion). We
will then discuss the nominations within the
committee, and attempt to come back to you all
with a suggestion that will hopefully be generally
acceptable. If you have any process-related
queries, it is probably appropriate that you
direct those to Ian Peter who is the independent
chair of the joint committee for now.</div>
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