<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>I concur with Anja and Joana.</div><div><br></div><div>Valeria </div><br><div><div>On 05/12/2013, at 6:41, Joana Varon wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>I agree with Anja, on both: <br>1) nominating Rafik and <br>2) reconsidering nominating all the 4 Brazilians to 1net (I'm not even sure they all want/are available to fulfill this role, a question to double check, I guess. Carol, Lau, CA?). I can also step back if needed. <br> </div>best<br>joana<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Anja Kovacs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anja@internetdemocracy.in" target="_blank">anja@internetdemocracy.in</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I agree that Rafik would be a good choice.<br><br>What I'm not so clear about is why the four Brazilian liaisons should also continue to be de facto representatives in the 1net Steering Committee, if such a thing is indeed going to be put into place immediately (I quite liked Andrew Sullivan's suggestions on the 1net email list to simply let people take up responsibility for things they are interested in for now). <br> <br>As Jeremy argued, when there are really good candidates, I'm ok with people being representatives on both the Brazil committees and on 1net, and I can imagine that it would be good to have one or two Brazilians on both, to make the link. But now that 1net has been delinked in many ways from Brazil, surely it would be good to have a broader representation there? Even if I am sure they'd all do a great job, somehow having four out of five 1net reps being Brazilian just doesn't seem like the right balance to me....<br> <br></div>What do others think?<br><br></div>Best,<br>Anja<br><div><div><br><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 5 December 2013 15:51, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br> </div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div style="font-family:Palatino-Roman">Hi</div><div style="font-family:Palatino-Roman"> <br></div><div style="font-family:Palatino-Roman">Rafik is the elected chair of NCSG, which comprises a) NCUC, with 313 members from 78 countries, including 88 noncommercial organizations and 225 individuals; b) NPOC, with 52 nonprofit organizations in a couple dozen countries; and c) some free floating individual members that are in neither constituency. NCSG dwarfs in size most other networks in this space, operates in a transparent and accountable manner, and has ongoing working relations with other stakeholder groups and ICANN, so one would think he’d be an obvious choice.</div> <div style="font-family:Palatino-Roman"><br></div><div style="font-family:Palatino-Roman">Best,</div><div style="font-family:Palatino-Roman"><br></div><div style="font-family:Palatino-Roman">Bill</div><div><br style="font-family:Palatino-Roman"> <div style="font-family:Palatino-Roman"><div>On Dec 4, 2013, at 8:57 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"> On 4 Dec 2013, at 11:37 pm, Carolina Rossini <<a href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com" target="_blank">carolina.rossini@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Robin Gross? Rafik?<div> I have a feeling that could be interesting to have the same people in different committees to ensure that we have clear information (or make the questions to try to gather better information based on a cross-fora observation). I am just not sure they are part of BB. They are part of other CS coalitions... </div> </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That isn't necessarily a barrier. But in the case of Robin Gross, she is not eligible as she is on the joint committee. Rafik seems like a good choice, if he is willing (we'll ask).</div> <div><br></div><div>Also, the whole question about these nominations are necessary has just been reopened on the 1net list, so who knows whether things may change... at least, we are hoping to get more time to come back with names (perhaps until 16 December).</div> </div></div></blockquote><br></div></div><div> <div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;font-family:Palatino;word-wrap:break-word;word-spacing:0px"> <div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;font-family:Palatino;word-wrap:break-word;word-spacing:0px"> <div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;font-family:Palatino;word-wrap:break-word;word-spacing:0px"> <div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;font-family:Palatino;word-wrap:break-word;word-spacing:0px"> <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">**********************************************************<br>William J. Drake<br>International Fellow & Lecturer<br> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ<br> University of Zurich, Switzerland<br>Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, <br> ICANN, <a href="http://www.ncuc.org" target="_blank">www.ncuc.org</a><br><a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a> (w), <a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a> (h),</div> <div style="word-wrap:break-word"> <a href="http://www.williamdrake.org" target="_blank">www.williamdrake.org</a><br>***********************************************************</div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"> <br></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><br> </div> <br></div><br></div></div><div class="im">____________________________________________________________<br> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>.<br> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits" target="_blank">http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits</a><br></div></blockquote></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br> Dr. Anja Kovacs<br>The Internet Democracy Project<br> <br><a href="tel:%2B91%209899028053" value="+919899028053" target="_blank">+91 9899028053</a> | @anjakovacs<br><a href="http://www.internetdemocracy.in/" target="_blank">www.internetdemocracy.in</a><br> </font></span></div> <br>____________________________________________________________<br> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>.<br> To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits" target="_blank">http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits</a><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>-- <br><br>Joana Varon Ferraz<br>@joana_varon<br> PGP 0x016B8E73<br><br><br> </div> ____________________________________________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>.<br>To unsubscribe or change your settings, visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits">http://lists.bestbits.net/wws/info/bestbits</a></blockquote></div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br></body></html>