<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Dear Mike and all,<br><br>Notes from the BB meeting can be found here: <a href="http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/bestbits2013">http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/bestbits2013</a><br><br></div>With regard to the last session of the meeting, on the future of Best Bits, we had agreed in the session that there would be structured discussions on various things that remained difficult and unanswered on the mailing list (eg, the tension between being a platform and something more organised, and how to deal with this tension). Organising these discussions got pushed a bit because November was such an extremely busy month, but the idea is still to do so. I would be happy to make sure this gets on the rails by early next week. <br>
<br></div>Best,<br>Anja<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 December 2013 19:42, Gene Kimmelman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com" target="_blank">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Maybe Jeremy can answer: I know we were streaming much of the meeting, which hopefull captured this (second day of meeting, particularly the afternoon), and we may have had note-takers who captured this; if not, I'll cound on others to verify that I haven't lost my recall skills......yet!</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:08 AM, michael gurstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div vlink="purple" link="blue" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">Gene,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:11pt">I wasn’t able to make the relevant portions of the BB meeting in Bali and I may have missed it but are there transcripts or minutes of what you are referring to below i.e. </span>we decided in Bali on an approach and I endorse Anriette's path toward formalizing this.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">Tks,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">M</span><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";font-size:10pt"> <a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com" target="_blank">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 02, 2013 5:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>; <a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>; <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations for your approval - URGENT<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal">To be more specific, maybe those with lingering concerns need to decide whether they want to participate on the best bits platform or not. You decide. If you think you can make it work better, please offer ideas like Anriette, Michael and others have done. I believe we decided in Bali on an approach and I endorse Anriette's path toward formalizing this. And I suggest we wrap up this conversation for now and move on to substance. Otherwise we delegitimze the broad support people worked towards over two days in Bali and make it more difficult to prepare for Brazil. <br>
<br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> <br>Date: 12/02/2013 8:22 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: <a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com" target="_blank">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a> <br>
Cc: William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>,Parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>>,<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a> <br>
Subject: Re: [bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations for your approval - URGENT <br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">every response with such reluctance and such kind of arguments raise more questions than giving answers or appeasing those with concerns.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">as reminder BestBits initiative started in august 2012 when people were talking about WCIT and prepared first meeting IGF Baku, we will be in 2014 in few weeks and we are still with temporary settings.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Rafik<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">2013/12/2 <a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com" target="_blank">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com" target="_blank">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Internal accountability to a group with shared goals may differ from societal/global policy goals that the group will agree to if all others with power agree as well. Best not to confuse these. We should be accountable but not create internal processes that make it impossible to coordinate policy actions. <u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p style="margin-bottom:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> <br>Date: 12/02/2013 3:52 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>
To: Parminder Singh <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> <br>Cc: "<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> Best Bits" <<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> <br>
Subject: Re: [bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations for your approval - URGENT <br><br><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">+1! <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">
On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:23 AM, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";font-size:13.5pt">Civil society must always remain very vary of thinking of themselves as somehow so morally superior that they are exempt from normal accountability and transparency requirements</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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