<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1" /></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Hi,<br>
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I would argue that the IETF is most definitely multi stakeholder as all stakeholders may/can/do participate and can caucus as they please or not as their stakeholder groups, however they may conceive of these groups. <br>
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I do not know where the requirement originated for the standard stakeholder groups defined unilaterally by governments to dictate the mandatory structure of all Ig groups. I do not even agree that any specific stakeholder group needs to participate in an organization, as long as any stakeholder can participate.<br>
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I tend to look for multi stakeholder participation forms of governance. I do not argue for multi-stakeholdergroupism. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Jeremy Malcolm <jeremy@ciroap.org> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
On 30 Nov 2013, at 9:31 pm, McTim <<a href="mailto:mctimconsulting@gmail.com">mctimconsulting@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br /><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline" /><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; position: static; z-index: auto;"><div dir="ltr"><div>Also, if someone could guide me to a space where I can find out more about "multi-equal-stakeholderism" and its origins, I'd be grateful - first time I hear about this.<br /></div></div></blockquote>
<div><br /></div><div>This is a very good question. I don't know much about non-Internet-y multi-equal-ness, but I think the purest form of multi-equal stakeholderism in IG can be found in some of the RIR PDPs and the IETF processes.</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><br /></div><div>It's an odd choice of example, since many would say the IETF is not multi-stakeholder all, since it does not recognise stakeholder groups. Where multi-equal stakeholderism is usually used specifically in reference to organisations that do recognise stakeholder groups, to indicate that they should be equal to one another in process terms. This distinguishes it from forms of multi-stakeholderism like at the OECD and purportedly at the ITU, that don't recognise equality between the stakeholders. So it's an attempt to refine the term multi-stakeholderism. I have to say, I don't really like the term though.</div><br /><div apple-content-edited="true">
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