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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/21/2013 01:54 PM, Jeremy Malcolm
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<div>On 20 Nov 2013, at 10:59 pm, michael gurstein <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>>
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post-Snowden world “trust us” is not a sufficient
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sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">As long as the
Steering Committee is self-appointed through murky
procedures and as long as this self-appointed (Interim
or no) Steering Committee chooses to act (and present
itself to the world) as though it has a mandate to act
on behalf of the BB grouping whatever that might be,
there will necessarily and quite reasonably be a lack
of trust and questions as to legitimacy.</span></div>
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<div>Actually the only such questions are coming from within; we
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Jeremy,<br>
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when questions regarding trust/credibility come from within, even
more reason to address it. Do you want to wait till outsiders (who
are perhaps relatively ignorant of the black box nature of the
steering committee working) raise this issue and sink BB credibility
completely? <br>
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<div> Snowden did not tar civil society with the same brush as
the NSA. We have presented an interim procedure for
democratising the steering committee in Bali, which remains
open for discussion and will be implemented soon once
finalised, but to rush its finalisation now at a time when
leadership is required would be pointless and would simply
remove us from some very important processes that are rolling
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you are making an assumption that this is binary - either we engage
with substantive issues or focus on process. Is is really possible
to separate the two so easily... What if BB's valuable contributions
are seen as tainted by 'murky' process later and hence not given
their due?<br>
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regards,<br>
Guru<br>
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