<div dir="ltr">+1<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/11/20 Andrew Puddephatt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Andrew@gp-digital.org" target="_blank">Andrew@gp-digital.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-GB"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Thanks Jeremy – that’s what I thought.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I’m not getting involved in the conversation about who is nominated and how, as it is a crowded field. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> I would simply ask <u>anyone</u> that BB nominates/supports/passes on, tells the list what they think of this secretive unaccountable black box in the MAG and what they would like to do about it. If we believe in multi-stakeholder processes and the IGF – we should do something about it <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 20 November 2013 10:23<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Puddephatt<br><b>Cc:</b> Poncelet Ileleji; William Drake; <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> Best Bits; Parminder Singh</span></p>
<div><div class="h5"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations for your approval - URGENT<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">
There should be, but no. 1/3 are meant to retire each year which would imply a 3 year term limit. In reality some members have never been rotated off. This is a deficiency of the "black box" selection system which the MAG refuses to change. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 20 Nov 2013, at 6:16 pm, Andrew Puddephatt <<a href="mailto:Andrew@gp-digital.org" target="_blank">Andrew@gp-digital.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Is there a term limit for service on the MAG? Most organisations I know regard it as essential to have a turnover of membership after a suitable period of time.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a> [<a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Poncelet Ileleji<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 November 2013 10:11<br><b>To:</b> William Drake<br><b>Cc:</b> Jeremy Malcolm; <a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>> Best Bits; Parminder Singh<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations for your approval - URGENT</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hello Colleagues,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Good day, I think its important for continuity especially as in my opinion the current CS MAG members are doing a great work and have really put in a lot of time to this , I concur will Bill and strongly belief in the overall continuity of all current CS MAG members<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Regards<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Poncelet<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <u></u><u></u></p></div>
</div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 20 November 2013 10:05, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Just woke up and am rushing to a meeting but would appreciate clarification. When was the call for nominations, when was the deadline for submission, and when was the period in which list members then expressed views either way before you decided to go ahead? Some of us are a bit busy in Buenos Aires dealing with Brazil meeting and such and are awash in a tidal wave of communications and meetings, so I at least missed all this. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">By selecting these six names, including just two current CS MAG members, do you wish to convey to the Secretariat and DESA that you do not support the continued participation of all the current CS MAG members not listed, irrespective of the time and work they’ve put in, how long they’ve been been on it, etc?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">It seems unduly abrupt, so please note my objection as well.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Bill<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Nov 20, 2013, at 4:15 AM, Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 20 Nov 2013, at 1:25 pm, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">As said before, I do not agree to steering committee choosing MAG nominees, or other kinds of reps, or next steering committee's membership, and so on.... These are serious. important issues which should have a clear, transparent, accountable and thus legitimate process around it. And I dont see that in place.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We have not chosen the MAG nominees, we have simply collected the nominations, suggested criteria that could be used to evaluate them, and forwarded them back to the main list with a recommendation. Although your objection was noted, most others were comfortable with this process and since we do not have voting or membership as such, we decided to go ahead. If appropriate your objection could probably be noted in some way in the letter that goes to the MAG.<u></u><u></u></p>
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