<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Dear all, <br><br></div><div>Please, allow me to raise a suggestion of the broader procedure: <br></div><div><br></div>I see this issue is getting complicated and sensitive and, particularly reading Mawaki's email, I sense that there is some misunderstandings that are particularly coming up from the fact that part of the people in the list didn't attend BB meeting in Bali and deserve some clarification about what happened there. <br>
<br></div><div>I know that everybody is really busy as since Bali the pace of events is accelerated (and on my case particularly overwhelmed with Brazil meeting issues), but I might be really useful if the steering make a joined effort to manage to report back from the meeting, particularly about the session on BB structure, so whoever that reads the wiki procedures will also have this background info.<br>
</div><br>In the main while, let's try to trust each other a little bit... I'm pretty totally comfortable to reaffirm that there is a lot of good will within the steering, sometime we stumble in procedures, true, we are all testing methods, its part of the task, but are also truly open for suggestions and to implement changes. So, please, be sure concerns raised here are being heard. Let's just not block important things to get done. <br>
<br>Therefore, I would suggest that we keep this
thread to at least have the list of people that BB would like to
suggest, having in mind the issue raised about indicating or not people that are already
there. Deciding if it is
going through IGC or not would be the next (complicated) step. <br><br></div><div>all the best<br><br></div><div>joana<br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Marianne Franklin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk" target="_blank">m.i.franklin@gold.ac.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Dear all<br>
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Could I suggest that all the names of anyone going up for the MAG
from both current slates (i.e. run by the IGC and being collated
through Best Bits) be posted so that we can inform other networks of
who is standing. <br>
<br>
Whether they are looking to stand as an IGC nominee or Best Bits
nominee can be noted. <br>
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Ongoing, and important discussions about the Best Bits governance
structure need to continue, and as a member of the interim BB
Steering as well as co-Chair of the IRP Coalition I support the need
for clarity here too. But right at this moment as the list and
candidates form, it would be good for anyone else considering
standing for the MAG to know who is currently doing so. If a person
is standing in two places could they nominate which one they are
opting for too to save space and time?<br>
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Also, I join those affirmations of the work done by all standing MAG
members, in this case from civil society, who are continuing. Thank
you all for the hard and often unrewarded and unrelenting work on
this group. <br>
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best<br>
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<div>(Replying from phone.) I had suggested off this list that we
omit any mention of the incumbent MAG members and limit our
candidates to those who will fill slots that will be open
anyway. If we clarify that we support the continuation of the
candidates who are eligible for continuing, and drop the
specific candidates mentioned, this may help?<br>
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Good day, I think its important for continuity
especially as in my opinion the current CS MAG members
are doing a great work and have really put in a lot of
time to this , I concur will Bill and strongly belief
in the overall continuity of all current CS MAG members<br>
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<div>Just woke up and am rushing to a meeting but
would appreciate clarification. When was the call
for nominations, when was the deadline for
submission, and when was the period in which list
members then expressed views either way before you
decided to go ahead? Some of us are a bit busy in
Buenos Aires dealing with Brazil meeting and such
and are awash in a tidal wave of communications and
meetings, so I at least missed all this. </div>
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<div>By selecting these six names, including just two
current CS MAG members, do you wish to convey to the
Secretariat and DESA that you do not support the
continued participation of all the current CS MAG
members not listed, irrespective of the time and
work they’ve put in, how long they’ve been been on
it, etc?</div>
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<div>It seems unduly abrupt, so please note my
objection as well.</div>
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before, I do not agree to steering
committee choosing MAG nominees, or
other kinds of reps, or next steering
committee's membership, and so on....
These are serious. important issues
which should have a clear,
transparent, accountable and thus
legitimate process around it. And I
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<div>We have not chosen the MAG nominees, we
have simply collected the nominations,
suggested criteria that could be used to
evaluate them, and forwarded them back to
the main list with a recommendation.
Although your objection was noted, most
others were comfortable with this process
and since we do not have voting or
membership as such, we decided to go
ahead. If appropriate your objection
could probably be noted in some way in the
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