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Andrew completely agree. Civil society inside and outside the MAG
should push for full transparency and 3 year term limits, and these
should be added to the (growing) list of things that need to change
before IGF 2014.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/11/2013 10:36, Andrew Puddephatt
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Jeremy – that’s what I thought.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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not getting involved in the conversation about who is
nominated and how, as it is a crowded field. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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I would simply ask <u>anyone</u> that BB
nominates/supports/passes on, tells the list what they
think of this secretive unaccountable black box in the MAG
and what they would like to do about it. If we believe
in multi-stakeholder processes and the IGF – we should do
something about it <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> 20 November 2013 10:23<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Puddephatt<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Poncelet Ileleji; William Drake;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net>">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a> Best Bits; Parminder
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations
for your approval - URGENT<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There should be, but no. 1/3 are meant to
retire each year which would imply a 3 year term limit. In
reality some members have never been rotated off. This is a
deficiency of the "black box" selection system which the MAG
refuses to change. <br>
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organisations I know regard it as essential to have a
turnover of membership after a suitable period of time.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Poncelet Ileleji<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 November 2013 10:11<br>
<b>To:</b> William Drake<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Jeremy Malcolm; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>>
Best Bits; Parminder Singh<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bestbits] Best Bits MAG nominations
for your approval - URGENT</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Good
day, I think its important for continuity especially
as in my opinion the current CS MAG members are
doing a great work and have really put in a lot of
time to this , I concur will Bill and strongly
belief in the overall continuity of all current CS
MAG members<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 20 November 2013 10:05, William
Drake <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just woke up and am rushing to
a meeting but would appreciate clarification.
When was the call for nominations, when was the
deadline for submission, and when was the period
in which list members then expressed views either
way before you decided to go ahead? Some of us
are a bit busy in Buenos Aires dealing with Brazil
meeting and such and are awash in a tidal wave of
communications and meetings, so I at least missed
all this. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">By selecting these six names,
including just two current CS MAG members, do you
wish to convey to the Secretariat and DESA that
you do not support the continued participation of
all the current CS MAG members not listed,
irrespective of the time and work they’ve put in,
how long they’ve been been on it, etc?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It seems unduly abrupt, so
please note my objection as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Bill<o:p></o:p></p>
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AM, Jeremy Malcolm <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 20 Nov 2013, at 1:25 pm,
parminder <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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said before, I do not agree to steering
committee choosing MAG nominees, or
other kinds of reps, or next steering
committee's membership, and so on....
These are serious. important issues
which should have a clear, transparent,
accountable and thus legitimate process
around it. And I dont see that in place.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We have not chosen the
MAG nominees, we have simply collected the
nominations, suggested criteria that could
be used to evaluate them, and forwarded
them back to the main list with a
recommendation. Although your objection
was noted, most others were comfortable
with this process and since we do not have
voting or membership as such, we decided
to go ahead. If appropriate your
objection could probably be noted in some
way in the letter that goes to the MAG.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Matthew Shears
Director and Representative
Global Internet Policy and Human Rights
Center for Democracy & Technology (CDT)
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>
+44 (0) 771 247 2987
Skype: mshears
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