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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jeremy,<br>
      <br>
      My apologies, I missed this email and assumed my name was still on
      this list. SFLC.in endorses all these candidates and support
      Anja's recommendation of adding William Drake to it. Thanks!<br>
      <br>
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      On 11/20/2013 09:27 AM, Anriette Esterhuysen wrote:<br>
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      Dear all<br>
      <br>
      It is one of those weeks for me. Sorry.. I have not been able to
      follow this adequately. We are revising proposals, logframes and
      we are having an APC council meeting. <br>
      I just wanted to add one piece of clarification.  The current CS
      MAG members have all served for under 2 years, with one
      exception.  For reasons that I still don't fully understand, the
      UN over-rotated CS members on the MAG. This had a very dramatic
      impact on CS's influence in the MAG. <br>
       <br>
      Other stakeholder groups have not been as dramatically rotated,
      and there are some individuals that have stayed on since the
      beginning. The reason this happens I can share because I demanded
      to know and managed to get clarification from New York. The reason
      is that tech and business  re-nominate people every year, and they
      give the secretariat a 'full slate' that includes names to be
      retired, and names to be added.<br>
      <br>
      Coming back to CS. Here is the current listing of people and the
      year they joined. As you can see, they joined in May 2012 or
      later, with one exception. This does not mean we don't need
      rotation. There are some people that have not worked hard enough
      for reasons of being too busy, unableI to come to meetings
      (funding is not always available), or just lacking confidence. MAG
      work is not easy. In my view that means they should not remain.
      But there are some people on this list who have worked very hard,
      and who have managed to push through some difficult and
      challenging debates and I do think that it is important to keep
      them.<br>
      <br>
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href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/951-mag-bio-esterhuysen"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Ms.
              Esterhuysen, Anriette</u></b></font></a><font size="3">: </font><a
        moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:anriette@apc.org"><font
          size="3" color="blue"><u>anriette@apc.org</u></font></a><font
        size="3"> 2012</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/942-mag-bio-aizu"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Mr. Aizu,
              Izumi</u></b></font></a><font size="3" face="Times New
        Roman"><b>: </b></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:iza@anr.org"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"
          color="blue"><u>iza@anr.org</u></font></a><font size="3"
        color="blue"><u>        </u></font><font size="3">2012</font><font
        size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/954-mag-bio-guo"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Mr. Guo,
              Liang</u></b></font></a><font size="3" face="Times New
        Roman">: </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:guoliang@gmail.com"><font size="3" face="Times New
          Roman" color="blue"><u>guoliang@gmail.com</u></font></a><font
        size="3"> 2012</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/957-mag-bio-mangal"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Ms. Mangal,
              Anju</u></b></font></a><font size="3" face="Times New
        Roman">: </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:anjum@spc.int"><font size="3" face="Times New
          Roman" color="blue"><u>anjum@spc.int</u></font></a><font
        size="3"> 2012</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/947-mag-bio-cretu"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Ms. Cretu,
              Veronica: </u></b><u>veronica@cretu.md</u></font></a><font
        size="3" color="blue"> </font><font size="3">2012</font><font
        size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/955-mag-bio-kelly"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Ms. Kelly,
              Sanja</u></b></font></a><font size="3" face="Times New
        Roman">: </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:kelly@freedomhouse.org"><font size="3" face="Times
          New Roman" color="blue"><u>kelly@freedomhouse.org</u></font></a><font
        size="3"> 2012</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/959-mag-bio-morenets-"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Ms.
              Morenets, Yuliya</u></b></font></a><font size="3"
        face="Times New Roman">: </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:contact@againstcybercrime.eu"><font size="3"
          face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><u>contact@againstcybercrime.eu</u></font></a><font
        size="3"> 2012</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/966-mag-bio-radunoic"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Mr.
              Radunovic, Vladimir: </u></b><u>vladar@diplomacy.edu<b> </b></u></font></a><font
        size="3" color="blue"><u> </u></font><font size="3">2012</font><font
        size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:Ms.Zachariah,Desiree:dazachariah@gmail.com"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><u>Ms. Zachariah,
            Desiree: dazachariah@gmail.com </u></font></a><font
        size="3">2013</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/949-mag-bio-drake-"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Mr. Drake,
              William</u></b></font></a><font size="3" face="Times New
        Roman">: </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch"><font size="3" face="Times
          New Roman" color="blue"><u>william.drake@uzh.ch</u></font></a><font
        size="3"> 2012</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/952-mag-bio-fell"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Ms. Fell,
              Lucinda</u></b></font></a><font size="3" face="Times New
        Roman">: </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:lucinda@childnet.com"><font size="3" face="Times
          New Roman" color="blue"><u>lucinda@childnet.com</u></font></a><font
        size="3" face="Times New Roman"> 2012</font><font size="3"
        color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/mag/45-mag-membership/1294-ms-fatima-cambronero"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Ms.
              Cambronero, Fátima: </u></b><u>fatimacambronero@gmail.com</u></font></a><font
        size="3"> </font><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">2013</font><a
        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/mag/45-mag-membership/1294-ms-fatima-cambronero"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u> </u></b></font></a><font
        size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/960-mag-bio-nalwoga"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Ms.
              Nalwoga, Lillian</u></b></font></a><font size="2"
        face="sans-serif"> </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:lnalwoga@gmail.com"><font size="2"
          face="sans-serif" color="blue"><u>lnalwoga@gmail.com</u></font></a><font
        size="3"> 2012</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-process/961-mag-bio-okite"><font
          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Ms. Okite,
              Judith</u></b></font></a><font size="2" face="sans-serif">
      </font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:judyokite@gmail.com"><font
          size="2" face="sans-serif" color="blue"><u>judyokite@gmail.com</u></font></a><font
        size="3"> 2012</font><font size="3" color="blue"><u><br>
        </u></font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          size="3" face="Times New Roman" color="blue"><b><u>Mr. Al
              Shatti, Qusai</u></b></font></a><font size="2"
        face="sans-serif"> </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
        href="mailto:qshatti@gmail.com"><font size="2" face="sans-serif"
          color="blue"><u>qshatti@gmail.com</u></font></a><font size="3">
        2006</font> <br>
      <font size="3">Subi Chaturvedi: 2013</font> <br>
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      Anriette - writing in my capacity as an individual who has served
      on the MAG since May 2012 and who would like to remain for another
      term. <br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/11/2013 16:09, Joana Varon
        wrote:<br>
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              <div>Dear all, <br>
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              <div>Please, allow me to raise a suggestion of the broader
                procedure: <br>
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              I see this issue is getting complicated and sensitive and,
              particularly reading Mawaki's email, I sense that there is
              some misunderstandings that are particularly coming up
              from the fact that part of the people in the list didn't
              attend BB meeting in Bali and deserve some clarification
              about what happened there. <br>
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            <div>I know that everybody is really busy as since Bali the
              pace of events is accelerated (and on my case particularly
              overwhelmed with Brazil meeting issues), but I might be
              really useful if the steering make a joined effort to
              manage to report back from the meeting, particularly about
              the session on BB structure, so whoever that reads the
              wiki procedures will also have this background info.<br>
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            In the main while, let's try to trust each other a little
            bit... I'm pretty totally comfortable to reaffirm that there
            is a lot of good will within the steering, sometime we
            stumble in procedures, true, we are all testing methods, its
            part of the task, but are also truly open for suggestions
            and to implement changes. So, please, be sure concerns
            raised here are being heard. Let's just not block important
            things to get done. <br>
            <br>
            Therefore, I would suggest that we keep this thread to at
            least have the list of people that BB would like to suggest,
            having in mind the issue raised about indicating or not
            people that are already there. Deciding if it is going
            through IGC or not would be the next (complicated) step. <br>
            <br>
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          <div>all the best<br>
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          <div>joana<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:04 AM,
            Marianne Franklin <span dir="ltr"><<a
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              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Dear all<br>
                <br>
                Could I suggest that all the names of anyone going up
                for the MAG from both current slates (i.e. run by the
                IGC and being collated through Best Bits) be posted so
                that we can inform other networks of who is standing. <br>
                <br>
                Whether they are looking to stand as an IGC nominee or
                Best Bits nominee can be noted. <br>
                <br>
                Ongoing, and important discussions about the Best Bits
                governance structure need to continue, and as a member
                of the interim BB Steering as well as co-Chair of the
                IRP Coalition I support the need for clarity here too.
                But right at this moment as the list and candidates
                form, it would be good for anyone else considering
                standing for the MAG to know who is currently doing so.
                If a person is standing in two places could they
                nominate which one they are opting for too to save space
                and time?<br>
                <br>
                Also, I join those affirmations of the work done by all
                standing MAG members, in this case from civil society,
                who are continuing. Thank you all for the hard and often
                unrewarded and unrelenting work on this group. <br>
                <br>
                best<br>
                MF
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                    <div>On 20/11/2013 10:17, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<br>
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                      <div>(Replying from phone.) I had suggested off
                        this list that we omit any mention of the
                        incumbent MAG members and limit our candidates
                        to those who will fill slots that will be open
                        anyway. If we clarify that we support the
                        continuation of the candidates who are eligible
                        for continuing, and drop the specific candidates
                        mentioned, this may help?<br>
                        <br>
                        -- 
                        <div>Jeremy Malcolm PhD LLB (Hons) B Com</div>
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                        On 20 Nov 2013, at 6:10 pm, Poncelet Ileleji
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                                <div>Hello Colleagues,<br>
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                                Good day, I think its important for
                                continuity especially as in my opinion 
                                the current CS MAG members are doing a
                                great work and have really put in a lot
                                of time to this  , I concur will Bill
                                and strongly belief in the overall
                                continuity of all current CS MAG members<br>
                                <br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On 20 November 2013
                              10:05, William Drake <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                  href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch"
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                              wrote:<br>
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                                <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi
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                                  <div>Just woke up and am rushing to a
                                    meeting but would appreciate
                                    clarification.  When was the call
                                    for nominations, when was the
                                    deadline for submission, and when
                                    was the period in which list members
                                    then expressed views either way
                                    before you decided to go ahead?
                                     Some of us are a bit busy in Buenos
                                    Aires dealing with Brazil meeting
                                    and such and are awash in a tidal
                                    wave of communications and meetings,
                                    so I at least missed all this.  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>By selecting these six names,
                                    including just two current CS MAG
                                    members, do you wish to convey to
                                    the Secretariat and DESA that you do
                                    not support the continued
                                    participation of all the current CS
                                    MAG members not listed, irrespective
                                    of the time and work they’ve put in,
                                    how long they’ve been been on it,
                                    etc?</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>It seems unduly abrupt, so please
                                    note my objection as well.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Thanks</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Bill<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>On Nov 20, 2013, at 4:15 AM,
                                        Jeremy Malcolm <<a
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                                          style="word-wrap:break-word">On

                                          20 Nov 2013, at 1:25 pm,
                                          parminder <<a
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                                          wrote:<br>
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                                              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                                text="#000000"><span
                                                  style="font-family:Verdana">As

                                                  said before, I do not
                                                  agree to steering
                                                  committee choosing MAG
                                                  nominees, or other
                                                  kinds of reps, or next
                                                  steering committee's
                                                  membership, and so
                                                  on.... These are
                                                  serious. important
                                                  issues which should
                                                  have a clear,
                                                  transparent,
                                                  accountable and thus
                                                  legitimate process
                                                  around it. And I dont
                                                  see that in place.</span></div>
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                                            <div>We have not chosen the
                                              MAG nominees, we have
                                              simply collected the
                                              nominations, suggested
                                              criteria that could be
                                              used to evaluate them, and
                                              forwarded them back to the
                                              main list with a
                                              recommendation.  Although
                                              your objection was noted,
                                              most others were
                                              comfortable with this
                                              process and since we do
                                              not have voting or
                                              membership as such, we
                                              decided to go ahead.  If
                                              appropriate your objection
                                              could probably be noted in
                                              some way in the letter
                                              that goes to the MAG.</div>
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