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    +1 as well<br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/11/2013 15:50, Carolina wrote:<br>
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      <div>Agree with Marilia<br>
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        Sent from my iPhone</div>
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        On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Marilia Maciel <<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>>
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          <div dir="ltr">Just to clarify further: I am not against the
            letter Parminder suggested, just think we could calibrate
            the language not to dismiss 1net as an option for
            participation.
            <div>M</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:33 PM,
              Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                <div dir="ltr">Hi Parminder,
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                  <div>I am writing from ICANN meeting in BA where some
                    folks from CS are also arguing for transparency,
                    openness and participation for civil society in the
                    Brazil process. In a similar way that we raised this
                    in the IGF during meetings with the Brazilian
                    government in the iStart meeting and in other
                    spaces, we are doing it here with ICANN staff (Fadi,
                    Thereza, Board members), with governments, etc. My
                    very quick thoughts based on the present situation
                    (things are changing very fast, so I reserve the
                    right to change opinion) is:</div>
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                  <div>- It is not either/or. Both things should be done
                    together: populate and participate 1net and continue
                    to organize ourselves in our own spaces, sending
                    contributions as IGC, BB or individual
                    organizations. It is not clear yet how relevant 1net
                    will be, but there is a possibility it will be
                    important, so we should not be out of it. We also
                    need a channel to exchange with other groups and
                    this could be the channel</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>- We need to make sure that a steering committee
                    of 1 net is representative and includes CS reps
                    chosen by CS itself </div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div>- 1 net does not exist so far and does not have a
                    committee. What people are doing is going straight
                    to Fadi or to the Br gov. For communication
                    purposes, we have appointed liaisons and should
                    reinforce that these people are our liaisons for the
                    moment until 1 net exists and until (and if) we feel
                    comfortable with it. </div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div>- Our liaisons need to be included in all
                    meetings</div>
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                  <div>Marília  </div>
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                        On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM, parminder <span
                          dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"
                            target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                              face="Verdana">Dear All<br>
                              <br>
                              There are strong indications from all
                              round that Brazil gov may just be taking
                              the easy expedient to channelise non gov
                              participation in the Brazil meeting
                              through the 1net structure.... And we know
                              that there was overwhelming feeling among
                              civil society that this should not be
                              allowed, and we should have a direct
                              liason. (Civil society outside the active
                              IG kind is even more strongly of this
                              view). Are we know willing to come out of
                              our paralysis?<br>
                              <br>
                              Lets write a short and succinct letter
                              that we want direct and independent liason
                              to the Brazil meeting and want to
                              independently present our liasons directly
                              accountable to us and not through the 1net
                              or whatever...And just forward the four
                              Brazilain names we have as our liasons...
                              We do not have to change/ expand that
                              liason structure. Havent the time for
                              that. (and if some people insist, we can
                              always do it a bit later). The following
                              is a quick text suggestion... <br>
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                            <blockquote><font face="Verdana">We of the
                                undersigned civil society networks and
                                groups are pleased to note that Brazil
                                has made a formal announcement of a
                                ............. (put the official name of
                                the meeting here) . We are happy to help
                                the government of Brazil organise this
                                meeting and take it to a successful
                                conclusion.  We have chosen the below
                                mentioned four persons to be our liason
                                to the Brazilian government and also to
                                be put on any steering committee that
                                may be set up.</font><br>
                              <br>
                              <font face="Verdana">....</font><br>
                              <font face="Verdana">......</font><br>
                              <br>
                              <font face="Verdana">......</font><br>
                              <font face="Verdana">...... the names of
                                our four Brazilian liasons </font><br>
                              <br>
                              <font face="Verdana">Please include our
                                above representatives in all meetings,
                                formal presentations etc that will
                                henceforth take place regarding the
                                proposed multistakeholder meeting on the
                                future of the Internet.....</font> We
                              will route our inputs to the organisation
                              of this meeting through these reps...<br>
                              <br>
                              <font face="Verdana">Signed</font><br>
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                              (ends)<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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                                  parminder <br>
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