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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/11/2013 15:50, Carolina wrote:<br>
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<div>Agree with Marilia<br>
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On Nov 19, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Marilia Maciel <<a
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<div dir="ltr">Just to clarify further: I am not against the
letter Parminder suggested, just think we could calibrate
the language not to dismiss 1net as an option for
participation.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:33 PM,
Marilia Maciel <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Parminder,
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<div>I am writing from ICANN meeting in BA where some
folks from CS are also arguing for transparency,
openness and participation for civil society in the
Brazil process. In a similar way that we raised this
in the IGF during meetings with the Brazilian
government in the iStart meeting and in other
spaces, we are doing it here with ICANN staff (Fadi,
Thereza, Board members), with governments, etc. My
very quick thoughts based on the present situation
(things are changing very fast, so I reserve the
right to change opinion) is:</div>
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<div>- It is not either/or. Both things should be done
together: populate and participate 1net and continue
to organize ourselves in our own spaces, sending
contributions as IGC, BB or individual
organizations. It is not clear yet how relevant 1net
will be, but there is a possibility it will be
important, so we should not be out of it. We also
need a channel to exchange with other groups and
this could be the channel</div>
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<div>- We need to make sure that a steering committee
of 1 net is representative and includes CS reps
chosen by CS itself </div>
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<div>- 1 net does not exist so far and does not have a
committee. What people are doing is going straight
to Fadi or to the Br gov. For communication
purposes, we have appointed liaisons and should
reinforce that these people are our liaisons for the
moment until 1 net exists and until (and if) we feel
comfortable with it. </div>
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<div>- Our liaisons need to be included in all
meetings</div>
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<div>Marília </div>
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On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM, parminder <span
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font
face="Verdana">Dear All<br>
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There are strong indications from all
round that Brazil gov may just be taking
the easy expedient to channelise non gov
participation in the Brazil meeting
through the 1net structure.... And we know
that there was overwhelming feeling among
civil society that this should not be
allowed, and we should have a direct
liason. (Civil society outside the active
IG kind is even more strongly of this
view). Are we know willing to come out of
our paralysis?<br>
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Lets write a short and succinct letter
that we want direct and independent liason
to the Brazil meeting and want to
independently present our liasons directly
accountable to us and not through the 1net
or whatever...And just forward the four
Brazilain names we have as our liasons...
We do not have to change/ expand that
liason structure. Havent the time for
that. (and if some people insist, we can
always do it a bit later). The following
is a quick text suggestion... <br>
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<blockquote><font face="Verdana">We of the
undersigned civil society networks and
groups are pleased to note that Brazil
has made a formal announcement of a
............. (put the official name of
the meeting here) . We are happy to help
the government of Brazil organise this
meeting and take it to a successful
conclusion. We have chosen the below
mentioned four persons to be our liason
to the Brazilian government and also to
be put on any steering committee that
may be set up.</font><br>
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<font face="Verdana">....</font><br>
<font face="Verdana">......</font><br>
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<font face="Verdana">......</font><br>
<font face="Verdana">...... the names of
our four Brazilian liasons </font><br>
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<font face="Verdana">Please include our
above representatives in all meetings,
formal presentations etc that will
henceforth take place regarding the
proposed multistakeholder meeting on the
future of the Internet.....</font> We
will route our inputs to the organisation
of this meeting through these reps...<br>
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<font face="Verdana">Signed</font><br>
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